David Haye could have been the most dominant boxer ever lived

cruiser is a horrible division and he doesnt crack the top 5. he gets extra "i was in the spotlight" points but his resume boils down to enzo mac and mormeck near the end of his career. Indeed. His argument rests on his having held 3 of the titles at one point and his formidible KO rate, but his route to the titles wasn't the toughest. Dudes like Lebedev, YPH, Huck maybe even Mormeck himself were at least as accomplished in terms of resume, and that's just amongst the dudes who could loosely be described as his contemporaries. As to whether Cruiserweigght is that shayt, it's my opinion that over the last decade or two it's gradually come into it's own as a division in it's own right. IMO it now stacks up fairly well against other divisions in terms of talent although there's still a degree to which it's a stepping stone division and likely always will be. Obviously the huge gap between LHW and the Bohemoths at HW kinda necessitates an intermediaiary division, but the bright lights and fat purses at HW will always lure the top talent eventually.

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This guy probably believes that he would have KO’d Klitschko if it weren’t for the broken toe. :rofl: The gayefaker was trash!

It would have been brilliant to have a prime David Haye around now with everything else inc Usyk around. Just bad timing. He'd have made a fortune now. Then again even the rise of british boxing, is down in large part to him glassing Chisora. I'm not over exaggerating either, when he glassed Chisora it was trending big...and everyone i know was laughing at it.

This is a laughable thread but I'll just say this: his size wouldn't have been an issue at Heavyweight if he was anywhere near as skilled as some of you seem to believe.

Haye was lucky to win that HW title he did. He was also in 3 of the worst fights I've ever watched vs Klit, Harrison and Valuev. I think he'd have lost to Usyk at cruiser and a couple others.

Its not difficult to slip a jab when you're purely on the defensive and looking to do nothing but that. David Haye didn't have the fundamentals to beat either Klitschko. He was already soundly outclassed by one that didn't get out of first gear and he was petrified and ducked the other on multiple occasions pulling out of fights.

Haye was a very skilled dude, I remember the way he was dodging Wladimir's jab like ain't no thang, and he was sharp and explosive to boot I think he could have beaten both Klistchkos if it wasn't for the size differece, and that's saying something because the Kbros are ATG hws too bad he was a tweener, too big for the cruisers, too small for the HW giants

Great athlete - Fast, explosive, pretty powerful with some decent reflexes but he was far from a great boxer. He got destroyed by a 40odd yr old Carl Thompson, he went life and death with a nearing 40yr old shopworn Mormeck who was never the same after those wars with O' Neil Bell. He struggled badly vs Fragomeni. He avoided all the top CWs but a shopworn Mormeck and a terrible beltholder in Enzo. David Haye is very overrated and far from this stellar CW which many portray him as. He should never be in talks as the best CW ever, he almost certainly wasn't even the best CW ever to even hail from England. David Hayes best quality was to dupe the public time & time again

Too big to be a truly dominant cruiserweight over time, I think. Really he just grabbed the belts and got out. Being able to put some extra weight on at heavyweight seemed to massively improve the suspect chin he showed at cruiser. If cruiser was 210lbs, had more money in it, and he didn't have all the injuries I think a prime Haye would've cleaned up the super series.

Whut?? :lol1: No. David was a superb athelete and an explosive fighter but he wasn't an elite boxer, least not in my eyes. I wouldn't be unhappy someone arguing he's a top 5 cruiser ever although in my eyes that's possibly generous, but he's certainly not even the most dominant Cruiser, yet alone overall boxer. cruiser is a horrible division and he doesnt crack the top 5. he gets extra "i was in the spotlight" points but his resume boils down to enzo mac and mormeck near the end of his career.

he wasnt very good at boxing. if he had amazing skills he would have been able to show them vs slow as hell valuev. you can time valuev with a calender! oh wait he must have amazing power he ko'd enzo mac lol

Whut?? :lol1: No. David was a superb athelete and an explosive fighter but he wasn't an elite boxer, least not in my eyes. I wouldn't be unhappy someone arguing he's a top 5 cruiser ever although in my eyes that's possibly generous, but he's certainly not even the most dominant Cruiser, yet alone overall boxer.

Haye is underrated but it's his own fault. Just too damn inactive and didn't look after his body properly. I believe you can put his power on Wilders level but he was also skilled and smart too.

He was stopped at cruiserweight though - -U shush! OP ain't talkin' facts, he talkin' worship and adoration

Shut up... :lol1: He only had 2 title fights at Cruiserweight. Got dropped in one and the other was against Enzo Mc... hardly proved he was “unstoppable”.

Not sure about the most dominant boxer ever, but? He was more talented than both Joshua and Fury 'When you dissect him as a fighter'. I still think he would of beaten Tyson Fury, even at the time they where both originally scheduled to fight. That would of been a great fight.

It was very early in his career. He was fighting a 40 year old

He was stopped at cruiserweight though It was very early in his career.

david haye was unstoppable as a cruiserweight. he was stopped at cruiserweight though lol.........