Iole: Khanelo did 460k

I find it a little ironic/convienent that Iole's 460k is the average between Glaser's 320k and GB's 600k........ You called it looks like that's exactly what Iole did to come up with 460K figure. Getting busted on twitter with his numbers not adding up LMAO Mark Taffet the man who ran HBO PPV and knows more about PPV's is saying this did closer to Oscar's 600k figure "As for #s...375 crazy, 460 wrong because impossible to know cable # on Wednesday, and Oscar closer than anyone." Taffet PPV guru for HBO Also Nicole Duva who is a rival promoter and has no dog in the race already made Kevin Iole who dropped the 460k figure look stupid saying based on the DirectTV figures he quoted then the fight extrapolates to 560K buys NOT 460k. http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/15523779/canelo-alvarez-amir-khan-fight-sells-close-600000-pay-per-view-buys-golden-boy-promotions-says De La Hoya referred to one media report that did not cite a source and claimed the fight had only 460,000 buys as "totally absurd." "The fight did way more than that," he said. "We know that for a fact. The numbers are still coming in, and it could be over or a little under, but it will be around 600,000."

I find it a little ironic/convienent that Iole's 460k is the average between Glaser's 320k and GB's 600k........

145k buys thru Directv (~26% market share) extrapolates to 560k buys total. Directv is only reliable number this early. What am I missing?— Nicole Duva (@nicoleduva) May 12, 2016 Also what about the ppv buys for the stream broadcast on ring TV live? They offered the ppv for cord cutters outside of cable providers. Also what about movie theaters does each ticket count as a ppv buy? Unless Iole is talking directly to golden boy there are many ppvs that might not be reflected in his figure

145k buys thru Directv (~26% market share) extrapolates to 560k buys total. Directv is only reliable number this early. What am I missing?— Nicole Duva (@nicoleduva) May 12, 2016

What's his source?

Oscar expected one million and it didn't even do half of it. Will Khan get his 13 million now? Lira? Zlotti?

Why are people mentioning Mayweather-Berto?? im lost, who fvcking cares what it did. Floyd did over 4 million ppv in the calender year of 2015

Also 1 quick question Iole must only talking about Cable/Direct TV/ect buys because Golden Boy also offered the fight via online stream through Ring TV Live. I know this because I was on vacation in another country and that's how I bought the fight. Fight had Doug Fischer and Lennox Lewis doing the play by play not HBO announcers and had nothing to do with Cable. So if he's not plugged into Golden Boy or speaking with them for his numbers then he's excluded 10s if not a hundred k PPV buys that were directly from Golden Boy. Anybody who bought the stream like I did can't be included in this 460K figure.

I subscribed to boxnation again for this fight, but I doubt many would. Simply put, Sky is the best channel for boxing in terms of single events. Khan simply isn't as hot since going to the US and 3 or 4 AM fights are tough to get people to watch.

Going by that theory then why did he "inflate" Mayweather's PPV buys as well if he's just in GBP and TR's pocket? Because if you believe Iole that's what he did reported numbers that were inflated for both Canelo and Mayweather. Dan just wants to be the first to get a story out so he called up GBP and they gave him a figure and he ran with it without doing much research. We don't know if that figure is accurate or not. But Jake Donovan has reported between 300-400K, Iole has reported 460K, and GBP has reported slightly less than 600K. Until HBO comes out and releases the numbers we wont know. But I'd say that Iole is probably the more accurate of the two.

Iole has just tweeted that Cotto v Canelo numbers of 900k were a lie, and that they were in the 600's. So if Cotto v Canelo did 600k, with Cotto the main PPV seller as seen with the 66-33 split between Cotto and Canelo,....and Canelo v Khan, a fight that wasn't even demanded by boxing fans sold 460k, excluding online PPV buys, that that is proof that Amir Khan has tapped the US market. I wouldn't be surprised if HBO and SHO go at it to get Garcia v Khan II on a stacked PPV card!

Going by that theory then why did he "inflate" Mayweather's PPV buys as well if he's just in GBP and TR's pocket? Because if you believe Iole that's what he did reported numbers that were inflated for both Canelo and Mayweather. How much did he say Floyd/berto did?

I'd assume its more to help GBP more than HBO. Fat Dan is in GBP's & TR's pocket more or less. Just like there are fanboys on forums there are fanboys who work (or are "paid" to work as fanboys) in boxing. Wacky world boxing is. Going by that theory then why did he "inflate" Mayweather's PPV buys as well if he's just in GBP and TR's pocket? Because if you believe Iole that's what he did reported numbers that were inflated for both Canelo and Mayweather.

Seems you always take the highest number and the lowest number and the truth is somewhere in the middle

I don't think these numbers matter much in the scheme of things. Canelo is the A side and I'm sure GGG team know that. Money wise he will get the lions share, but the weight will be the big issue... 70-30 split at 160 0r more like 60-40 at a catch weight of 157-158. Team GGG will probably have to decide what's the right play... Canelo is not Manny or Floyd in their primes getting 800-1 million PPV buys but he's the biggest star in boxing now and the winner of his fight with GGG will be THE face of boxing...

It amazes me that people on this site love to take unconfirmed numbers and justify his numbers by saying "at least Alvarez beat Floyd." Alvarez didn't beat Floyd. He has never beaten Floyd and never will in any way. Floyd sold more PPVs in one fight than Alvarez has sold or will sell in his entire career. Taking unconfirmed numbers from one fight and using them as a comparison to unconfirmed numbers in another fight to say "he is better than Floyd" is about as retarded as pissing on someone who is on fire and then saying, "I tried to help."

Yup, far cry from the $30 dollar PPVs in the 90's, to the $70 PPVs today. People just a.) don't give a **** enough about boxing to pay that. B.) Wouldn't pay that if they did give a **** about boxing. That's just how it is. It's too ****ing expensive, and the sport is already a cult sport these days, to begin with. No one is doing Tyson, Floyd, Manny # PPVs and I don't see that every coming back anytime soon.

Its clear people are going to believe who they want to believe. Canelo haters are going to jump on the lowest number, his supporters on the higher end. Even if we say it was 500k it was a succesful show and Canelo is still the A side in negotiations. What would GGG/Khan have done? GGG/Lara, GGG/Angulo? All would have done worse than Canelo did with those opponents. Hell if GGG fought any of these 3 its on HBO not PPV in the first place.

Here's what Iole said Floyd Mayweather's Sept. 12 bout with Andre Berto at the MGM Grand Garden sold roughly 400,000 pay-per-view units, a source told Yahoo Sports. That number, the source said, includes about 145,000 sales from DirecTV, which is almost always the first distributor to report a figure. Another source close to the promotion of the fight said the figure was higher and estimated it between 500,000 and 550,000. In any event, the result will be the lowest figure since Mayweather sold 325,000 while fighting Carlos Baldomir on HBO Pay-Per-View in 2006. That's the number Dan Rafael reported for the Floyd/Berto fight. So if you believe Dan then Floyd/Berto did around 500k while Canelo/Khan did just under 600k. If you believe Iole then Floyd/Berto did 400k and Canelo/Khan did 460k. Either way Canelo/Khan sold more then Floyd/Berto.

The @Canelo @AmirKingKhan PPV did 460k buys, including 145k on Direct & 230k on cable. Story to come soon.— Kevin Iole (@KevinI) May 12, 2016 @GrandstandFan @Canelo @amirkingkhan Of course— Kevin Iole (@KevinI) May 12, 2016 @Lenstation @Canelo @amirkingkhan This is US. I have heard the UK sales of this fight did poorly but can not confirm that.— Kevin Iole (@KevinI) May 12, 2016 Seems more substantiated than the Rafeal/Pugmire numbers that were from GBP, but we'll see.