This is why I can't stand Lucas fans. YES the guy is a damn good fighter but he is not unbeatable. Provo is a VERY dangerous fight for him and though I give him the edge it won't be an easy out.
No one is saying Lucas is unbeatable. Im saying Provo cant beat him.
This is why I can't stand Lucas fans. YES the guy is a damn good fighter but he is not unbeatable. Provo is a VERY dangerous fight for him and though I give him the edge it won't be an easy out.
Provodnikov clearly has a chance. Especially with Molina dropping Lucas twice and hurting him on at least one other occasion.
In the Garcia fight it kind of a bullsh*t knockdown but Molina took Matthysee from being a guy who was hardly ever even buzzed to a guy that could be hurt and dropped. That's a big change.
It'll be a meat grinder. Hard to tell who's going to forced backwards.
Then again, not all KD are the same, and some arent even good for you, like KD Chino Maidana. You better win by points because if you knock him down he'll just get up and beat the living sht out of you! :D
Punchers always have a chance. That said, the Machine can box, and if all you can do is move forward the Machine will break you. Provo showed against Algieri that he just eats punches and moves forward. Sometimes being tough just isnt enough, especially not against someone that can crack harder than you. 70-30 fight for Matthysse if you ask me. Provo can win, but man, he has to be on fire or very lucky.
Bro, this is gonna be a slugfest for the ages. And you're saying Ruslan has no chance?? Maybe he shouldn't be favored to win vs Matthysse but this is not gonna be a walk in the park for Lucas. John Molina wasn't, why should I believe Ruslan will be??
He really is, whether you like it or not. So he had an off night vs Herrera. Herrera still doesn't have a resume at 140 as good as Garcia. Garcia is the best 140 pounder right now.
Not an off-night, he lost. Marquez didn't have as good a record as Pacquiao at 147 but was still ranked above him when he beat him, that's how it goes.
Maybe Alexander, but Judah fight was pretty close. Those two guys are not any good though, and if Lucas was the monster you guys make him out to be he would have beaten them more conclusively.
I don't make him out to be a monster. Funnily enough tho, Angel Garcia does now.
this is a 50-50 fight for the simple fact that ruslan is rough and tough, more accurate of a power puncher than molina imo. plus molina did drop and buzz mathysse. the difference will be lucas mixing it up with boxing and counter punching,for ruslan work the body and try to wear down mathysse with his aggression
I'm rolling with Ruslan for this fight even though I understand Lucas being the favorite...but I don't understand how anyone could think Ruslan doesn't have a chance??? It's like your setting yourself up for humiliation: if you're right and Lucas wins then who cares because you didn't even give Ruslan a chance...but if you're wrong and Ruslan wins :lol1:
Lol they'll go back into hibernation mode just like after the Garcia fight.
He really isn't, and Danny isn't clearly number 1 since Herrera beat him in the view of most, Herrera also holds a win over Provodnikov.
I see the winner of this fight taking on Herrera.
He really is, whether you like it or not. So he had an off night vs Herrera. Herrera still doesn't have a resume at 140 as good as Garcia. Garcia is the best 140 pounder right now.
You're making yourself look silly repeating this line, they both received gift decisions.
Maybe Alexander, but Judah fight was pretty close. Those two guys are not any good though, and if Lucas was the monster you guys make him out to be he would have beaten them more conclusively.
He really isn't, and Danny isn't clearly number 1 since Herrera beat him in the view of most, Herrera also holds a win over Provodnikov.
I see the winner of this fight taking on Herrera.
I'd be surprised if that happened, I can see the top JWWs avoiding Herrera now after how he's made a few decent fighters look bad.
He definitely deserves some decent money fights though, can't imagine how hard it would be to keep going in the gym when you feel you've been jobbed by everyone.
Then quit watching boxing or at least quit talking about it, because your ability to asses and break down fights is non existent.
Provodnikov can punch, he is very heavy handed and Matthysse has been hurt by guys who don't hit nearly as hard. Having said that, all Prov has, is a punchers chance, Matthysse is far more skilled and will eventually get a points decision...if he doesn't get stopped.
I'm rolling with Ruslan for this fight even though I understand Lucas being the favorite...but I don't understand how anyone could think Ruslan doesn't have a chance??? It's like your setting yourself up for humiliation: if you're right and Lucas wins then who cares because you didn't even give Ruslan a chance...but if you're wrong and Ruslan wins :lol1:
Exactly instead of calling Lucas a hype job, we should give credit to Danny Garcia. Lucas is clearly the number 2 in the division. And by no means is any fight let alone a former world champion is easy.
He really isn't, and Danny isn't clearly number 1 since Herrera beat him in the view of most, Herrera also holds a win over Provodnikov.
I see the winner of this fight taking on Herrera.
Provo former welterweight champion.. Matthysse former nothing.
Provo was a JWW champion, but Matthysse weighed in at 140 and beat a JWW "champion" who weighed in at 141, so ultimately it doesn't mean much in terms of this fight.
Lucas lost to Zab Judah and Devon Alexander.
Provo would shred those bums.
You're making yourself look silly repeating this line, they both received gift decisions.
I don't know if ruslan will win but he will damage Lucas, regardless. Ruslan is a real savage warrior that sends every opponent to the hospital, win or lose.
Are people still pretending Lucas lost those fights? :lol1:
Sure Judah won if you score rounds to fighters jabbing thin air whilst eating hefty powershots to head and body whilst back peddling in full survival mode. He landed ONE noteworthy shot the whole fight.
As for Alexander lol he got smashed to bits. His head was getting jarred back like a Pez dispenser, he got dropped and beaten senseless. Look at his body language, he was on the verge of quitting.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Provo has a punchers chance. Mathysse is the better boxer with great power and for that reason I favor him but to say Provo has no chance is to admit your limited understanding about boxing.
Are people still pretending Lucas lost those fights? :lol1:
Sure Judah won if you score rounds to fighters jabbing thin air whilst eating hefty powershots to head and body whilst back peddling in full survival mode. He landed ONE noteworthy shot the whole fight.
As for Alexander lol he got smashed to bits. His head was getting jarred back like a Pez dispenser, he got dropped and beaten senseless. Look at his body language, he was on the verge of quitting.