This is my own assessment that I think can't be disputed. Fighters with quick hands and any kind of punch give him issues. Zab Judah had him in trouble early in their fight, and an almost 40 year old Shane pushed him to his limits. This is why I think Pac KO's Cotto mid rounds.
This is my own assessment that I think can't be disputed. Fighters with quick hands and any kind of punch give him issues. Zab Judah had him in trouble early in their fight, and an almost 40 year old Shane pushed him to his limits. This is why I think Pac KO's Cotto mid rounds.
i wont argue that cotto struggles against fighters with fast hands, but he always find a way to win. :boxing:
I think Cotto wont even see the punches coming. He has been more hittable the last few fights, and the combination of speed and power will be too much. I dont even think Cotto will ever really be in the fight. I have no dog in the fight at all, but I see Pac getting a KO within 4 or 5. A highligh reel style ko. But I hope Im wrong and we get a great war with the best man winning.
A guy loses one fight, potential a tainted fight and he's not elite? He's ranked 1 or 2 P4P in his division which happens to be the deepest division in boxing. He's certainly better than Paqs last 3 opponents, in Paqs last fight against quality opposition he won by a single point, what Cotto did against Clottey. I know you're a nuthugger of Paq, but lets be real man... these guys have fought nothing but the best throughout their careers. Minus Paqs last 3, against at best, "good fighters," these guys have essentially the same record against TOP notch opposition.
Manny has one loss against the elite, the fight in which he suffered a brutal cut. That was the first Morales fight, he went on to win the trilogy. He then had those two FOTY's with Marquez. On top of him beating Barrera down, they guy did great and only suffered one loss against the best of the best. Cotto beats Judah, Mosley, and Clottey and suffers his only loss in a fight that was quite possibly tainted with Marg and his hand wraps. Point is to not get your head overblown over Manny, he's done great but he has shown he has weaknesses. I know Cotto has his but what makes him great is all but one time he was able to pick himself up or learn his opponents strategy and refine his own technique and win. This isn't going to be a pushover for either guy, I can't wait for this one.
don't forget he beat Carlos Quintana too.
With who Cotto? It may be a slight step up...far from elite. Pac seems to be doing great in the zone...Cotto not so..
A guy loses one fight, potential a tainted fight and he's not elite? He's ranked 1 or 2 P4P in his division which happens to be the deepest division in boxing. He's certainly better than Paqs last 3 opponents, in Paqs last fight against quality opposition he won by a single point, what Cotto did against Clottey. I know you're a nuthugger of Paq, but lets be real man... these guys have fought nothing but the best throughout their careers. Minus Paqs last 3, against at best, "good fighters," these guys have essentially the same record against TOP notch opposition.
Manny has one loss against the elite, the fight in which he suffered a brutal cut. That was the first Morales fight, he went on to win the trilogy. He then had those two FOTY's with Marquez. On top of him beating Barrera down, they guy did great and only suffered one loss against the best of the best. Cotto beats Judah, Mosley, and Clottey and suffers his only loss in a fight that was quite possibly tainted with Marg and his hand wraps. Point is to not get your head overblown over Manny, he's done great but he has shown he has weaknesses. I know Cotto has his but what makes him great is all but one time he was able to pick himself up or learn his opponents strategy and refine his own technique and win. This isn't going to be a pushover for either guy, I can't wait for this one.
Your assessment if vague...
Any boxer struggle with quick handed contenders..
Cotto is slow but in this division not too many are quick but instead they got heavy hands
You must really like Pacquiao a lot. some people cannot see the fight for what it is. They are so in love with certain fighters that they wear blinders.
Keep in Mind...He does struggle with these fighters...And these fighters are not an elite fighter that can be compared P4P to Pacquiao.
Cotto does have issues early on and usually breaks them down. These fighters are not Pacquiao...
You must really like Pacquiao a lot.
I'm glad you posted this because it proves the DLH fight wasn't much of win. DLH was 3 out of 6 his last fights before Paq. Hatton should have been 2/3, he got lucky the ref intervened when Hatton was on wobbly legs against Licano a no-name and Hatton was anything but impressive in his fight with Paulie. My point? Manny hasn't been tested by anyone bigger than 130, Diaz wasn't/isn't exactly an elite, this is my only reason why I doubt Paq. I will never question anything about Paq before that or after he beats a legitimate WW, until then the jury is still on what Paq can do against a WW or Jr. WW for that matter.
With who Cotto? It may be a slight step up...far from elite. Pac seems to be doing great in the zone...Cotto not so..
Judah is nothing lost 4 of last 8 ... This is your comparable
I'm glad you posted this because it proves the DLH fight wasn't much of win. DLH was 3 out of 6 his last fights before Paq. Hatton should have been 2/3, he got lucky the ref intervened when Hatton was on wobbly legs against Licano a no-name and Hatton was anything but impressive in his fight with Paulie. My point? Manny hasn't been tested by anyone bigger than 130, Diaz wasn't/isn't exactly an elite, this is my only reason why I doubt Paq. I will never question anything about Paq before that or after he beats a legitimate WW, until then the jury is still on what Paq can do against a WW or Jr. WW for that matter.
I'm just going to hope that the replies to this... interesting topic all point out that EVERY fighter struggles with good handspeed. YEP, Sugar ray leonard, tyson, holyfield, etc, etc all fought fighters that were faster than them.
Judah is nothing lost 4 of last 8 ... This is your comparable lol....who is hatton? David Diaz? Pacman has only fought 1 welterweight in last 10 fights. Oscar, besides that he has fought featherweights/lightweights and super featherweights. True???
it's not just speed, Pacquiao is just better at everything. I don't think Cotto will pull the trigger because he's a very patient accurate based style of fighter. Pacquiao won't give him a target.
As a cotto fan cotto is beatable. He already got beat by margarito and he starts out slow but what benefits cotto that does not benefit pacman and people seem to miss or don't want to accept is that cotto fights the true welterweights and that is very good lesson. Is cotto great? NOPE ! He is a good fighter who has the goods to beat ATG fighters. Can he do it? We'll find out. Fans need to be open and not blind or smitten by the media.
Cotto strugles with big WW like Margacheato and Clottey. Cotto handle Judah speed and he used timing to counter Mosley speed.
Cotto will handle Pacquiao speed just fine.
Judah is nothing lost 4 of last 8 ... This is your comparable