The guy seems to be a good fighter but has never proved it. His best win is over a fellow Euro trash champion in Markus Beyer. My question is why does Kessler have any followers when he hasn't accomplished anything in boxing as of yet? He wasted his 2008 and fell into the Euro pattern of hiding overseas your whole career until all the legit opponents either get too old (Calzaghe) or you're ready to cash out and call it a career (Hatton). And, if you do take a real challenge and lose (like he did against Calzaghe), never step up again (the Sturm way).
So again I ask, what is there to like about a guy that fights no one?
Even Carl Froch has a better resume than Kessler
Honestly, if we're going based on potential, then Zab Judah is worlds better than Kessler. And he certainly has a better resume than Mikkel despite the losses.
Again, why does this guy have a fanbase?
The guy seems to be a good fighter but has never proved it. His best win is over a fellow Euro trash champion in Markus Beyer. My question is why does Kessler have any followers when he hasn't accomplished anything in boxing as of yet? He wasted his 2008 and fell into the Euro pattern of hiding overseas your whole career until all the legit opponents either get too old (Calzaghe) or you're ready to cash out and call it a career (Hatton). And, if you do take a real challenge and lose (like he did against Calzaghe), never step up again (the Sturm way).
So again I ask, what is there to like about a guy that fights no one?
Even Carl Froch has a better resume than Kessler
Honestly, if we're going based on potential, then Zab Judah is worlds better than Kessler. And he certainly has a better resume than Mikkel despite the losses.
Again, why does this guy have a fanbase?
I really don't think he is overrated! He was a former champion! He possesses good boxing skills with a KO power! It's just that his promoters seem not willing to let him fight in the US soil regularly! Maybe they hated US so much as to think that they can continue boxing, without US interference (media-hyping, media coverage, etc).
Give yourself an uppercut.
Pavlik beat Jermain Taylor. One round of that fight is better than a win over Anthony Mundine, which is Mikkel's best win right now.
Ooh, Jermain Taylor. Wooooooh. That horse bolted 3 years ago. The square root of **** all else on his resume. Miranda? Give me a break. Anyone else? Nope.
Kessler has a few former world champions on his resume at the very least. It isn't the strongest but it's better than many others out there. I wouldn't put Mundane in his Top 3 wins personally.
I actually took this thread seriously until you claimed Froch has a better resume.
Kessler is the best SMW but is overrated.
:lol1: Yeah that was a ridiculous thing to say, i do agree that Kessler is overrated though.
This must be some kind of thread to fire people up. Kessler gave Calzaghe one hell of a fight, much better than faded Roy. He beat Mundine, knocked Beyer out cold, slammed Andrade all night, beat down Siaca and Lucas in TKO victories. Great technique, good power, great chin. OP is an attention whore.
The guy seems to be a good fighter but has never proved it. His best win is over a fellow Euro trash champion in Markus Beyer. My question is why does Kessler have any followers when he hasn't accomplished anything in boxing as of yet? He wasted his 2008 and fell into the Euro pattern of hiding overseas your whole career until all the legit opponents either get too old (Calzaghe) or you're ready to cash out and call it a career (Hatton). And, if you do take a real challenge and lose (like he did against Calzaghe), never step up again (the Sturm way).
So again I ask, what is there to like about a guy that fights no one?
Even Carl Froch has a better resume than Kessler
Honestly, if we're going based on potential, then Zab Judah is worlds better than Kessler. And he certainly has a better resume than Mikkel despite the losses.
Again, why does this guy have a fanbase?
Boxing scene needs to IQ tests people before they should be allowed onto the forum :****you::****you:
Kessler > Anyone at 160-168.
He needs to step up his competition though. His resume's better than Pavlik's though.
Give yourself an uppercut.
Pavlik beat Jermain Taylor. One round of that fight is better than a win over Anthony Mundine, which is Mikkel's best win right now.
The guy seems to be a good fighter but has never proved it. His best win is over a fellow Euro trash champion in Markus Beyer. My question is why does Kessler have any followers when he hasn't accomplished anything in boxing as of yet? He wasted his 2008 and fell into the Euro pattern of hiding overseas your whole career until all the legit opponents either get too old (Calzaghe) or you're ready to cash out and call it a career (Hatton). And, if you do take a real challenge and lose (like he did against Calzaghe), never step up again (the Sturm way).
So again I ask, what is there to like about a guy that fights no one?
Even Carl Froch has a better resume than Kessler
Honestly, if we're going based on potential, then Zab Judah is worlds better than Kessler. And he certainly has a better resume than Mikkel despite the losses.
Again, why does this guy have a fanbase?
Kesslers is overrated, he's a nobody
You shouldn't rip on Hatton though, I think he actually wanted to test himself - not just a cash in. I respect Hatton for going after the best, he's going after Pacquiao to. I can see why he has a lot of fans.
Calzaghe is a fraud, waited in Europe his entire career till the great fighters get old, gets a horrible decision over Hopkins and beat a shot Jones and can't even knock him out even though Tarver did it in 2 rounds. Fraud.
I don't think Kessler is overrated at all. He has some solid wins over guys like Beyer, Mundine, Andrade, etc. He's no ATG, But I think he is a damn good fighter. He just needs to stop bull shitting, And fight guys like Taylor, WW, Dawson.
Well, while he may be slightly overrated by some, he is not actually that rated at the moment. Also, his resume is not nearly as bad as you think it is Fuego. It is not a great resume by any stretch, but it is not a bad resume. It is a solid resume that has some good fighters along with some very good fighters. The only great fighter on it is the one he lost to, but he has beaten quite a number of champions and still has a ways to go before calling it a day.
Give it a bit more time before calling him trash and a Euro coward. See what he does in '09 and if by the end of it he hasn't done anything, than and only then, should we start calling him a fool for not taking greater opportunity of his standing. He's a good fighter with lots of potential as long as he does eventually use it.
I am a Kessler fan but I admit that up to this point his competition has been poor.
There are people on here who think his resume is better than Dawson's. To me that is madness.
Hopefully Mikkel gets over to the US or at least faces some top quality opposition soon otherwise he will simply allow his talent to go to waste. A Froch fight would be a pretty good starting point.
well said. I'm just tired of seeing the guy rated among the top 15-20 in the world when he's never done anything to prove it. if your division sucks, so what? move up or down or fight at catchweights but do SOMETHING with your career. don't be another Felix Sturm
im gonna stick up for him here because kess is one helluva talent and an awesome prospect.
i think any guy who has shown that he willing to travel to places like australia, cardiff even germany deserves a little more respect than what he is getting. even before he fought joe he has beaten a decent level of competition and beaten them soundly, mundine, beyer etc.
i think after the joe fight, i could understand him not wanting to take on pantera, miranda is a dangerous fighter, mikkel was coming off a loss and back to back losses would have derailed his career. once he claimed the WBA belt he had to take on the mandatory apparently, but now he is free to dictate which fight he wants. he is the no.1 in a deep division and even if he doesn't get a fight like taylor or froch a win over inkin, miranda or bika would look good on his resume.
personally i hope he goes for bika or miranda, both are big draws, well known names and exciting fighters. whats more both would jump at the chance to fight him in the US, and right now that is what kess needs he doesn't need another mandatory or another belt he needs a name. the guy is nearly 30 now and another useless fight would be taking the p!ss.
in short the next few months wont just dictate who he fights but they may well dictate his career.
Give me one good win from Kessler. Just one that made you think he was in the top 30 in the world. He might be top 30, but he has never done anything to prove it or even come close.
Shutting out Andrade without having to fight on the backfoot all night like Bute did. That was impressive. Mundine is not a bad fighter. Beating him is a notch on the belt.