David Tua is 11-0-1 (9 KO's) Since his last loss in 2001 to Chris Byrd. I think he has cracked the top 20 in my opinion. I wanna know what you guys think of a Tua vs Chagaev or Peter. 2 top heavyweights who are close to his size which would make for a close and exciting fight. I know Tua isn't his former self, but I could garuntee you that anything could happen when Tua is fighting. Would you wanna see Tua fight one of these guys?
Tua vs Peter would be an entertaining fight. Two bangers with not particularly good handspeed & a lot of power.
Tua vs Chagaev would be a pretty one sided & probably a little boring.
Tua has an excellent chin, so would go the distance, but Chagaev would be able to outbox him pretty easily over 12 without taking many risks, & imagine he would do so.
Chagaev also appears to have a good chin, so even if Tua manages to land the occaissional big shot, it won't turn the bout in his favour.
I agree if Tua can get/stay in shape he is a threat to any heavyweight (with maybe the exception of Wlad). He has enormous power in that hook and if he hits you cleanly with it, its lights out most of the time. I like his chances against Peter whose chin has come into question. I think Chagaev outboxes him to a UD. Iggy/Tua might be a good exciting fight assuming Wlad takes care of Iggy.
None of the smaller heavyweights want a piece of the Tuaman thats for damn sure. Tua needs to fight 2 or 3 more guys before he gets to the top. If he can get down to 230 or lower than the division better look out! Wlad beats him easily though because of the size difference...
true dat. I kinda felt I was making a bad argument even while typing.
It's all good, I like Tua, and I'd like to see him get another shot at a belt. And I think he'd have a very good shot against either Peter or Maskaev. But damn, he needs to step up the opposition quickly if he wants to do so.
Chagaev barely beat old Ruiz, Tua KO'd prime Ruiz. Not to say Tua is quite as good anymore, but he has looked impressive against the last two journey men he beat. Peter barely beat McCline or old fat James Toney the first time. I think if Tua hets it together, he could beat both.
and on the ring magazine hw rankings, maskaev is ranked 3rd after peter and wlad. Tua KO'd Maskaev. I think he belongs and should get atleast 1 more shot at a top heavyweight before he is done.
Chagaev barely beat old Ruiz, Tua KO'd prime Ruiz. Not to say Tua is quite as good anymore, but he has looked impressive against the last two journey men he beat. Peter barely beat McCline or old fat James Toney the first time. I think if Tua hets it together, he could beat both.
Difference being Tyson and Holyfield were multiple time world champions that are top 20 ATG heavyweights. Tua never won a major world title in his life.
true dat. I kinda felt I was making a bad argument even while typing.
why doesn't he deserve a shot for what he has done 10 years ago? I mean, tyson didn't exactly re-earn his shot at fighting lewis. Or neither did holyfield re-earn his shot at fighting Ibragimov. Of course his past counts, especially that he is still 35 not 45 and is still fighting at a really good level. oh and, he ko'd micheal more 5 years ago, not 10, not 12.
Difference being Tyson and Holyfield were multiple time world champions that are top 20 ATG heavyweights. Tua never won a major world title in his life.
That doesnt answer my question.. and I wasnt asking you anyways..
Now to respond to you anyways... yes of course.. Becasue We all know People make it to "contender" status By Knocking out Nobody... and having records like 1-31...:pat:
Do you have anything Intelligent to add.. not based on your own personal feelings..???
Reality check.. Tua has done sweet fuck all for 10 years..
He does not deserve a shot based on that... Nor does he deserve a shot for what he did 12 years ago..
If you believe that he does... You are a complete idiot..
why doesn't he deserve a shot for what he has done 10 years ago? I mean, tyson didn't exactly re-earn his shot at fighting lewis. Or neither did holyfield re-earn his shot at fighting Ibragimov. Of course his past counts, especially that he is still 35 not 45 and is still fighting at a really good level. oh and, he ko'd micheal more 5 years ago, not 10, not 12.
I believe he deserves a title shot. If anything he would bring a lil excitment back into the heavyweight division. I think he can beat most of the top Heavy's too. He knocked out his past couple opponents just like he used to and he's back down to the 230's lb range, wierd though he fought like twice in Nov but hasn't fought since, hope he's gonna get back in the ring soon, cause he needs 1 or 2 legimete contender wins before a title shot.
I'm not saying he deserves a title shot this second, he needs to take out a couple of contenders first. Last time I checked, Peter doesn't have a title, except for that "interim" garbage, though he is likely to put away Maskaev when they fight. All I'm saying is a fight between him and Peter would be entertaining, because of the style matchup.
I agree with that........ It would be a fun fight indeed..
HUH??? he Knocked out a few guys over a decade ago.. and this earns him a Title shot today????
I'm not saying he deserves a title shot this second, he needs to take out a couple of contenders first. Last time I checked, Peter doesn't have a title, except for that "interim" garbage, though he is likely to put away Maskaev when they fight. All I'm saying is a fight between him and Peter would be entertaining, because of the style matchup.
It's better than most of these contender's today who have NEVER knocked out anyone.
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That doesnt answer my question.. and I wasnt asking you anyways..
Now to respond to you anyways... yes of course.. Becasue We all know People make it to "contender" status By Knocking out Nobody... and having records like 1-31...:pat:
Do you have anything Intelligent to add.. not based on your own personal feelings..???
Reality check.. Tua has done sweet fuck all for 10 years..
He does not deserve a shot based on that... Nor does he deserve a shot for what he did 12 years ago..
If you believe that he does... You are a complete idiot..
HUH??? he Knocked out a few guys over a decade ago.. and this earns him a Title shot today????
It's better than most of these contender's today who have NEVER knocked out anyone.
TUAMAN HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION 2008
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