3 AM Max Bench Workout!!!

[HedonisticFrog]

Lol

How many guys have you seen bench 315+ that were small and/or didn't have a significant amount of muscle mass?

How do you build a significant amount of muscle without getting stronger? It's not possible.

The essence of lifting is pretty much lift "x" amount of weight for "y" amount of reps, when you can lift the weight for more reps than the starting amount of reps, you add weight. As a result of the muscle being broken down due to work, the muscle repairs itself to be bigger and stronger (given your diet supports this). You won't build any significant amount of muscle without resistance training to get stronger. You have to get stronger. You will never see anyone with low muscle mass be strong as hell aside from the oddball lifter here and there.

You're not contradicting me. Of course you need muscle mass to be strong, that was my point. You lift and build muscle, and once you have more muscle you're stronger and lift more. It's called progressive overload.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

You're not contradicting me. Of course you need muscle mass to be strong, that was my point. You lift and build muscle, and once you have more muscle you're stronger and lift more. It's called progressive overload.

Muscle mass doesn't make you stronger than someone with less mass. There are plenty of 160 lbrs that are stronger than folks who are 200 lbs even though they have less muscle mass.

[HedonisticFrog]

Muscle mass doesn't make you stronger than someone with less mass. There are plenty of 160 lbrs that are stronger than folks who are 200 lbs even though they have less muscle mass.

If muscle mass doesn't make a difference why are there weight classes in power lifting? It most definitely does make a difference.

[OctoberRed]

If muscle mass doesn't make a difference why are there weight classes in power lifting? It most definitely does make a difference.

I agree with both sides on this. There are guys at my gym who are smaller and can outlift some of the bigger guys - depending on the exercise of course.

[HedonisticFrog]

I agree with both sides on this. There are guys at my gym who are smaller and can outlift some of the bigger guys - depending on the exercise of course.

The smaller guys just learned the technique better then most likely. Or the bigger guys don't have as much muscle mass. On the other hand, I know a woman who never did deadlifts before and managed 225lb her first time doing them because she already had a significant amount of muscle mass. Strength is a combination of muscle mass and technique and there's only so much you can perfect your technique. To go past that you need muscle mass.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

If muscle mass doesn't make a difference why are there weight classes in power lifting? It most definitely does make a difference.

Muscle mass in and of itself doesn't make someone stronger. More muscle mass and elite strength-orientated training methods is why there are weight classes.

In terms of weight training you can't build muscle without strength but you can build strength without muscle to a certain degree.

[HedonisticFrog]

Muscle mass in and of itself doesn't make someone stronger. More muscle mass and elite strength-orientated training methods is why there are weight classes.

In terms of weight training you can't build muscle without strength but you can build strength without muscle to a certain degree.

Or you know, muscle mass increases strength with the same level of training. Because muscle mass effects strength greatly. Just look at the IPF records, especially the bench press. The bench press record almost doubles going from 60kg to 120kg.

http://www.powerlifting-ipf.com/championships/records.html

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Or you know, muscle mass increases strength with the same level of training. Because muscle mass effects strength greatly. Just look at the IPF records, especially the bench press. The bench press record almost doubles going from 60kg to 120kg.

http://www.powerlifting-ipf.com/cham...s/records.html

It increases because the guys who weigh more have bigger frames which allows them to have the potential to move heavier weights and more muscle mass as a result of strength oriented training.

You're saying that you have to build muscle before you can get stronger. How tf do you build significant muscle without resistance training?

Btw the squat only increased by 130 kg and the deadlift only increased by 145 kg. However the most important aspect, the total, only increased from 762.5 kg to 1125 kg even though he was over 2x as heavy as the 59 kg winner. It's about proportionality.

[Donnie Herrera]

That small bench doesn't look very secure, I wouldn't feel safe pushing anything above 200lbs on that thing without a spotter, better make sure those nuts and bolts are snug before every workout. You're still a lightweight right now so it's not too big of an issue, once you start to get up there though it would be a smart idea to get yourself a squat rack.

Thanks man...yeah I'm gonna get the squat rack and do like you said with the mobile bench...

[Donnie Herrera]

It increases because the guys who weigh more have bigger frames which allows them to have the potential to move heavier weights and more muscle mass as a result of strength oriented training.

You're saying that you have to build muscle before you can get stronger. How tf do you build significant muscle without resistance training?

Btw the squat only increased by 130 kg and the deadlift only increased by 145 kg. However the most important aspect, the total, only increased from 762.5 kg to 1125 kg even though he was over 2x as heavy as the 59 kg winner. It's about proportionality.

Thank You!!!...