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  • Cuauhtémoc1520
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    #41
    Originally posted by Ray Corso
    I marked it 8 to 4 for Broner! he got his 12 rounds in and Paulie did his thing and landed on his feet! He lost his BS belt and his BS "side piece" but picked up a million!! The hype for the fight was goofy and after was silly! These guys got paid for sparring and both got what they wanted, except Paulie with the "side piece" loss!! HA!

    To hear everyone yak about who won just keeps things very clear on how little the people who post the most here know about boxing!
    Your going to have fights that come on with hype but when they're played out their farces!!! Mayweather vs Robert was a joke with Mayweather running all night because we found out that Roberts power stayed with Berto!
    Broner vs Paulie was a farse because Paulie can't punch, if he could it would have been a decent match up! .........and the money still rolls on......Ray.
    Ray, you really want to act as if everyone doesn't know anything about boxing after that statement?

    Mayweather boxed beautifully, he did not run. He fought an incredibly intelligent fight and did what he had to do.

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    • THE REED
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      #42
      Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
      Ray, you really want to act as if everyone doesn't know anything about boxing after that statement?

      Mayweather boxed beautifully, he did not run. He fought an incredibly intelligent fight and did what he had to do.
      Agreed......

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      • DIB42
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        #43
        I think it was a decent fight even without paulie having any power. (Granted I think if had been an active guy with power, someone like Paul Williams was, it would have been a lot better.) But ultimately it played out how I imagined it would, I don't know if AB showed his hand in that fight, or just did enough to win. But as much as I don't care for his antics and attitude, he'll be fun to watch over these next couple years, if he fights some good competition.

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        • Ray Corso
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          #44
          Generally speaking the "fans" here don't know a damn thing about the sport! If you consider yourself as part of the general populous then fine! If you don't and I didn't mention your name why *****?
          I don't care for Mayweathers style, ofcourse he has talent and skill and he knows his game inside & out but its not my cup of tea!! He gets away with it because theres NO dominate force in the weight area. Can you imagine the great welters in with him? Come on now he's not being cute and defensive minded or countering them!!
          Boxing needs excitment again and personalities that draw people into the sport, Mayweather doesn't do that , the interest in him is to see him get beat! Thats a negative draw!!! Really I'm tired of all this, time to rest abit!
          Ray Corso

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            #45
            Originally posted by Ray Corso
            Generally speaking the "fans" here don't know a damn thing about the sport! If you consider yourself as part of the general populous then fine! If you don't and I didn't mention your name why *****?
            I don't care for Mayweathers style, ofcourse he has talent and skill and he knows his game inside & out but its not my cup of tea!! He gets away with it because theres NO dominate force in the weight area. Can you imagine the great welters in with him? Come on now he's not being cute and defensive minded or countering them!!
            Boxing needs excitment again and personalities that draw people into the sport, Mayweather doesn't do that , the interest in him is to see him get beat! Thats a negative draw!!! Really I'm tired of all this, time to rest abit!
            Ray Corso
            Nacho said something after the 3rd Pac fight that really told me a lot about where boxing is nowadays. He said that the style in which he trains Marquez, maybe isn't conducive to what fans and judges want and that's a serious shame.

            I still believe in the sweet science, boxing is not fighting. This is coming from a former, Mexican pressure fighter. I love the pressure style the great Mexican legends have given us, but as a boxing fan, former fighter and now trainer, I also respect the style that Mayweather brings to the table.

            He is not a runner, he is the most intelligent boxer I have ever witnessed and if you think Mayweather wouldn't be a handful in ANY era, then your falling for that old nonsense the old timers fall for. Mayweather is the greatest fighter of our era, PERIOD. I don't care for him too much as a person, but I can't be biased in what I see.

            It's styles that make fight Ray, that's what makes boxing so beautiful. I respect your right to not like his style but at least don't disrespect it by calling it "running".

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              #46
              Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
              What do you think he was doing? LOL Did you watch the fight? Broner was throwing the right and left hook but couldn't catch Paulie cleanly with it.

              Also, walking in and counter punching is what Broner does. It's what he's always done so why was it so surprising.
              LoL! That's why I later suggested the uppercut to mix things up! Paulie knew the hook was coming because we ALL know the flow of Broner's offense.

              A slight adjustment would have been bringing that uppercut after the right hand so Paulie, at least, has to question whether the next punch will be the left uppercut or the left hook.

              I definitely don't mind the walking in, which, again, we all knew is what he does, but I do want to see wrinkles being added to his game every time out. A jab...whether stiff or pawing...would have stifled some of Paulie's "activity" and led to more right hands while still walking him down.

              None of it being surprising is the point. I think when Floyd's jab is landing, he's a monster so, if Daniel-san is studying his game, this is something that should not continue to be overlooked.

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              • Ray Corso
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                #47
                His ring generalship is denoted passively! He does little to initiate the combat (its still a fight you know) to counter all the time is counter productive to being fan friendly! He has plenty of opportunities to take over a fight and end it but he sits back and is passive! Passive agressor spells wins for him because the competition is weak but why sit back when he has the ability and talent to end the contest! This isn't a manditory 12 this isn't nine innings or four quarters. Theres 3 judges there if you can't finish it on your own!
                My views on how a fighter should conduct themselves in and out of the ring is a passing thought these days but remember something! In my time and with my philosophies the sport was much healthier in every way!
                You saw Floyd dispatch a very over matched Hatton yet he won't put the effort to end the fight with an equally over matched Robert!! He does not give a max effort and that attitude is why he's not an ATG Welter!
                Wlad is the top heavy so big deal about dominating your division, Joe Louis rang out the Bum of the month club but never accepted any laurals for it!
                Floyd getting ready to fight a 22 year old kid who he should take into deep water and expose him and stop him! If Mayweather wants to be considered a REALLY great fighter thats what he needs to do! Its not his fault the divisions are weak but don't fight DOWN to your competition fight to eliminate them! Different times young man, different ways to look at boxing but when you take the fight out of the boxer you get BS like the Broner vs Paulie or Floyd and Robert. Theres a time for a fight to break out in every boxing match in fact theres a lot of times its what your boxing is supposed to set up! Dinner time! Ray

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                  #48
                  I think part of the problem is the fan base seems to be more concerned about Win/Loss record than anything else. They want intense fights, but they also want fighters who are undefeated. It takes a very special fighter to be able to do both. Instead fighters get put in soft, and play it safe to build records for a few payday fights late in their careers.

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                  • Ray Corso
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                    #49
                    Correct!!! Everything these days is a "number"! To be an undefeated fighter is a big deal! Well it could be but if you fought set up guys beyond the imitial set up guys whats the big deal! Every top prospect gets 20 or so opponents he's supposed to beat. Some need to be stopped and their told this prior to the bell. Others you get your distance out of and hopefully you get two who could box but can't punch! Then you get two more who are in your "area code" atleast! This has been the formular since the 76 Olympic team turned pro! With the exception of Leon Spinks all the boys got their 20+ then at 28 to 32 bouts fought for titles!
                    Playing it safe with a dangerous opponent is understood! Doing the same with a guy that could be taken out with effort is BS to me!
                    If boxing becomes more of a "tag" scoring the interest will fall more & more! Like any other sport thats turned into entertainment with quarenteed money the real efforts and willingness to excell gets lost as time moves on!!
                    Have you ever seen the best second basemen in baseball run down the line after he hits a ground ball?? He dogs it all the way, you see hustle and effort come from within. You don't need talent or skills to show effort!! You do need pride! Ray
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                    Last edited by Ray Corso; 06-25-2013, 05:29 PM.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Ray Corso
                      I marked it 8 to 4 for Broner! he got his 12 rounds in and Paulie did his thing and landed on his feet! He lost his BS belt and his BS "side piece" but picked up a million!! The hype for the fight was goofy and after was silly! These guys got paid for sparring and both got what they wanted, except Paulie with the "side piece" loss!! HA!

                      To hear everyone yak about who won just keeps things very clear on how little the people who post the most here know about boxing!
                      Your going to have fights that come on with hype but when they're played out their farces!!! Mayweather vs Robert was a joke with Mayweather running all night because we found out that Roberts power stayed with Berto!
                      Broner vs Paulie was a farse because Paulie can't punch, if he could it would have been a decent match up! .........and the money still rolls on......Ray.
                      I watched the fight and it was a bore. What with Paulie just just standing in front of Berto throwing 4/5 pitty-pat punches into Bertos arms/chest, it looked rediculously amateur and was affective to no degree. Berto won't reign long as WW champ, as I stated before he is rather ordinary.

                      I never saw Paulie take the left side of Berto once, not once. Can't he step around to his right?

                      Sorry fight in my opinion.

                      Ray hits the nail n the head............... Rockin'

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