Hey Paulie, Want to Kick Broners Butt? Heres what you need to do.

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • mconstantine
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • May 2010
    • 1099
    • 67
    • 15
    • 7,570

    #11
    That's a good strategy in theory, but as someone pointed out, no way Paulie will have the stamina to keep Broner off of him for 12 rounds...

    UNLESS...

    He gets Broner's respect in terms of his power (crazy I know, but it's the only way I see Paulie winning).

    Listen, as confident as Broner is, there still has to be SOME slight uncertainty around how the power will be different at 147 vs. 135. Perhaps the BEST thing for Paulie to do is give Broner a reason EARLY, to have concerns about that.

    Broner is notorious for starting off slow. He's never looking to throw hard shots early in the fight. That is the perfect time for Paulie to look for an opportunity (they will be there cause Broner doesn't shy away from contact) to really sit down on a punch and make Broner have concern about the power at 147. That would slow Broner, and the pace of the fight down, making it easier for Paulie to sustain his boxing style for 12 rounds and out point Broner.

    IF Paulie can do that, it may make Broner a bit gun shy. Broner has been so deadly because he hasn't had to really respect his opponent's power so he can open up his. If you take that confidence away from him, we may see a completely different Broner and one Paulie can outbox for 12 rounds.

    I know power and Malignaggi don't really go together, but power is really about committing to punches. Paulie has never done that because he prefers to move. He may need to abandon that approach momentarily early to get respect.

    Conventional wisdom says what Rockin says, but reality says there is no way Paulie keeps Broner off him for 12 rounds without getting some respect. He will gas, Broner will finish him. He has to give Broner a reason to be a little more cautious.

    Comment

    • mconstantine
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • May 2010
      • 1099
      • 67
      • 15
      • 7,570

      #12
      BTW, if I have to guess how this fight ACTUALLY plays out?

      Paulie will be Paulie early in the fight. He will box him. In and out. He will look good in the early rounds. But around round 5-7, he will slow, they will exchange more. We will see that Broner is just as quick and potentially MORE powerful even at 147. Paulie will be game but he will get beat up until the fight is called around round 7-10.

      Honestly, even if Paulie stands his ground and attempts to dig in and get respect, I still think Broner beats him. I don't think Broner will cower. I think this dude is truly a dog and will show it when he has to. But it's still an unknown at this point. And one things for sure, fighters can look a LOT less invincible when...

      1. They are at a speed disadvantage

      or

      2. They feel some wicked power and believe the guy in front of them can hurt them.

      Comment

      • DIB42
        Undisputed Champion
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Apr 2008
        • 2426
        • 88
        • 245
        • 9,003

        #13
        Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
        Yea but remember Rockin, Broner is a natural counter puncher and I don't think he will come forward. So if the pace is slowed down, then I see Broner winning the pot shot battle.

        I just don't see in that scenario where Paulie would win or have the advantage. I think he needs to be first, shoot the jab often and move, move, move. Speed it up to a higher pace, out point Broner, almost turn it into an amateur style fight.

        Broner has great accuracy.
        With all due respect to Rockin' I agree with Cuauhtémoc. I can't see Paulie winning this fight without outworking and outpointing Broner. The worst thing for Paulie is to hang back and wait for Broner. Broner will bank rounds with the pot shots, even if Paulie outlands him, Broner's will be the one coming forward in that scenario, and will obviously have the more powerful punches.

        Paulie has to stick and move non-stop 3minutes for 12 rounds.

        Unfortunately I just don't think Paulie's legs are there like they used to be, although I think paulie has a little more power in his punches now, so maybe it evens out.

        I know that Broner is expecting Paulie to do his thing, and the idea of pulling a 180 on your typical style can be a great mind**** and can get you some wins, but Paulie just doesn't have enough other skillsets to be anything other than Paulie. Also he doesn't have the power to risk getting behind on the cards.

        Comment

        • THE REED
          Sixty Forty
          Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
          • Apr 2007
          • 43481
          • 1,988
          • 1,483
          • 690,068,075

          #14
          Paulie comes in shape... but his "shape" is only very good for about 7-8 rounds.

          I don't care if he "finishes" all of his fights, he doesn't "finish" them looking fresh.

          Comment

          • mconstantine
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • May 2010
            • 1099
            • 67
            • 15
            • 7,570

            #15
            Originally posted by DIB42
            With all due respect to Rockin' I agree with Cuauhtémoc. I can't see Paulie winning this fight without outworking and outpointing Broner. The worst thing for Paulie is to hang back and wait for Broner. Broner will bank rounds with the pot shots, even if Paulie outlands him, Broner's will be the one coming forward in that scenario, and will obviously have the more powerful punches.

            Paulie has to stick and move non-stop 3minutes for 12 rounds.

            Unfortunately I just don't think Paulie's legs are there like they used to be, although I think paulie has a little more power in his punches now, so maybe it evens out.

            I know that Broner is expecting Paulie to do his thing, and the idea of pulling a 180 on your typical style can be a great mind**** and can get you some wins, but Paulie just doesn't have enough other skillsets to be anything other than Paulie. Also he doesn't have the power to risk getting behind on the cards.
            I agree with this. Stick and move for 12 rounds. But even that won't be enough to keep Broner off of him unless he gets his respect.

            The only way this works before Broner gets a chance to finish him, is if Broner's power doesn't come to 147 with him. If Paulie can take Broner's punishment, he could potentially get enough rounds by outworking him to win a decision. But this fight does not go to decision if Broner's power is there unless he can get Broner to respect his power.

            Comment

            • Ray Corso
              Undisputed Champion
              Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
              • Jan 2012
              • 7988
              • 609
              • 0
              • 21,253

              #16
              Sounds like your all saying the same thing; be first, box in & out, try not to get trapped and be the matador not the confronter. Sounds good but!

              Broner has a pretty extensive amatuer career in his past and although I've never seen film on him I'll guess he knows how to get up on his toes and move that way! If so he might be able to box with Paulie if Paulie does try to box in & out! Most successful amatuers know how to box (on toes) first before a step to style is developed. (atleast thats how I taught) hahaha!!!
              If this happens I think it will show folks that Broner has some depth and isn't a stepper only!!
              I agree with everyones opinions and it will take alot of boxing skills to keep Paulie "clean"! I Broner can get up on his toes to close the distance between them without walking into back hands he will break Paulie down. He will be the stronger punches but I've seen stranger things happen and up sets do occur when both are willing! "ring the damn bell" be safe and get tired doing it!! Ray.

              Comment

              • mconstantine
                Undisputed Champion
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • May 2010
                • 1099
                • 67
                • 15
                • 7,570

                #17
                Originally posted by Ray Corso
                Sounds like your all saying the same thing; be first, box in & out, try not to get trapped and be the matador not the confronter. Sounds good but!

                Broner has a pretty extensive amatuer career in his past and although I've never seen film on him I'll guess he knows how to get up on his toes and move that way! If so he might be able to box with Paulie if Paulie does try to box in & out! Most successful amatuers know how to box (on toes) first before a step to style is developed. (atleast thats how I taught) hahaha!!!
                If this happens I think it will show folks that Broner has some depth and isn't a stepper only!!
                I agree with everyones opinions and it will take alot of boxing skills to keep Paulie "clean"! I Broner can get up on his toes to close the distance between them without walking into back hands he will break Paulie down. He will be the stronger punches but I've seen stranger things happen and up sets do occur when both are willing! "ring the damn bell" be safe and get tired doing it!! Ray.
                Yea, EVERYTHING I'm saying is based on the assumption that Broner doesn't unveil a movement, light footwork having type of wrinkle we haven't seen. But you're right...Broner and his trainer Stafford have joked about this very topic. They've thrown strong hints that Broner USED to have more of a traditional boxer, movement type of style. It may come out Saturday. I still think people don't give him enough credit for his footwork even in the style we've BEEN watching. Despite his perceived "flat footed", wide stance, he's VERY light on his feet and quick...the flat footed/wide stance just means he's always in position to punch. That's the essence of good footwork.

                Comment

                • Cuauhtémoc1520
                  Head Mexican in Charge
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 20824
                  • 1,666
                  • 569
                  • 35,996

                  #18
                  Originally posted by DIB42
                  With all due respect to Rockin' I agree with Cuauhtémoc. I can't see Paulie winning this fight without outworking and outpointing Broner. The worst thing for Paulie is to hang back and wait for Broner. Broner will bank rounds with the pot shots, even if Paulie outlands him, Broner's will be the one coming forward in that scenario, and will obviously have the more powerful punches.

                  Paulie has to stick and move non-stop 3minutes for 12 rounds.

                  Unfortunately I just don't think Paulie's legs are there like they used to be, although I think paulie has a little more power in his punches now, so maybe it evens out.

                  I know that Broner is expecting Paulie to do his thing, and the idea of pulling a 180 on your typical style can be a great mind**** and can get you some wins, but Paulie just doesn't have enough other skillsets to be anything other than Paulie. Also he doesn't have the power to risk getting behind on the cards.
                  I agree, I just think Broner has the style advantage unless Paulie can turn back the time or muster up a shot that really hurts Broner.

                  I don't see either one happening.

                  Comment

                  • Ray Corso
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 7988
                    • 609
                    • 0
                    • 21,253

                    #19
                    Thats my best guess not knowing him personally! His trainer has done an outstanding job preparing Broner so theres no reason to think he can't box on his toes and move appropriately! He fought in the J.O's (junior olympics) and you box in that phase of the amatuers or you get your head handed to you if your a flat footed styled fighter!
                    His steppin' flat footed is just a pro styled approach to landing harder punchers and not getting caught on the move! When your on the move weither laterially or in & out you will have both feet off the ground at the same time for a quick instance and if you do get caught in "mid stream" you do get hurt!!! Your chin will sting alot more without a foot or feet on the ground, we know that hahaha!!!

                    The other "question" is will Paulie be the first to catch Broner with his "big mouth" opened?? hahaha!!! Thats a really bad habit he has and he does it alot! Not sure if its an expression or a breathing fault! Either way its going to happen eventually! Ray.

                    Comment

                    • HtotheZ
                      Interim Champion
                      Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 554
                      • 19
                      • 128
                      • 7,594

                      #20
                      Originally posted by Ray Corso
                      The other "question" is will Paulie be the first to catch Broner with his "big mouth" opened?? hahaha!!! Thats a really bad habit he has and he does it alot! Not sure if its an expression or a breathing fault! Either way its going to happen eventually! Ray.
                      Lol just imagine if paulie catches him real good and breaks his jaw

                      I'd die laughing

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP