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  • #21
    Originally posted by Hailow View Post
    I believe it all started off with Floyd. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXbl9OKjGSk

    since seeing couple good fighters in a gym I train hitting the bag very lightly. I was wondering wtf, as i was hitting the bag with decent rotational force.

    Then soon enough a lot of other high caliber fighters started doing this same routine.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YTagW9tBPY

    Like I know why Floyd does it to simulate being into a tough 8th or 12th round fight tired and just pushing through it by punching back.After a grueling work session he hits the bag. But the other fighters don't look (as I just posted) even remotely dead tired at all so it wouldn't make sense to me copying floyd.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwyxaaWiLaA
    Even the guys in the background are doing this.

    It's like some sort of an unnoticed tread everyone who is trying to make a living boxing is picking up on kinda influential what Floyd did.

    Edit: don't most fighters train like this, though.
    It's because their hands hurt. When these guys were young they would pound the bag. As they develop they got light and work only on technique and keep the shoulders and coordination, usually after a grueling workout.

    What most people dont understand, is if you are a professional boxer in top shape and have perfected your technique, you can hit hard from a very short distance without even putting a whole lot of effort besides going through the motions. Usually noobs think the bag swinging equals power, but these are the same noobs that don't knock anyone out in sparring or even hurt people, simply because they are pushing the bag.

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    • #22
      Floyd doesn't need to hit the bag hard, that's why he doesn't do it.

      The heavy bag can be used in many different ways, not for just standing there and pounding on it. I don't hit it really hard anymore either, and still get what I need from it.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520 View Post
        Floyd doesn't need to hit the bag hard, that's why he doesn't do it.

        The heavy bag can be used in many different ways, not for just standing there and pounding on it. I don't hit it really hard anymore either, and still get what I need from it.
        Bingo and add in the fact it's a stamina builder and helps build insane shoulder endurance.

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        • #24
          I used to hit the heavy as either a part o the warm up or once I was finishing up and dead tired. That was one of two things I'd do tired. Spar (not alway tired of course...but maybe a fee rounds here and tere) or heavy bag.

          From my understanding its going through the motions for technique. Most guys I used to see who did that were essentially lining up hard shots here and there. Some guys are finding their focus, some just dont like hitting the heavy hard ALL the time there's really nothing wrong with it imo. Some guys just like going through the motions as they envision everything and are trying to tweak the way they turn into it, etc etc.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520 View Post
            Floyd doesn't need to hit the bag hard, that's why he doesn't do it.

            The heavy bag can be used in many different ways, not for just standing there and pounding on it. I don't hit it really hard anymore either, and still get what I need from it.

            Anybody who just stands in front of a heavy bag busting shots into does not know how to work on one.

            you're not a fighter anymore and are way older than fighters, ofcourse you'll still get what you need, you don't need nearly as much hard work as a fighter.

            Train as you'll fight and you'll fight as you've trained.

            Talk to us again when you're deep into a fight and all that you have left to throw are those pitty pat shots.

            Or better yet when you are stunned and are on instictive mode, how you train will show up here. What if in this instance of unclearity you begin just touching your opponent. mimicing what you do on a bag? It could happen........ Rockin'

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            • #26
              For a fun time, I suggest if anyone has not seen any of it, youtube some old George Foreman heavy bag work . . . That guy crushed the bag . . . Then again, it was Big George, those could have been his equivalent of pitty pat punches.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
                Anybody who just stands in front of a heavy bag busting shots into does not know how to work on one.

                you're not a fighter anymore and are way older than fighters, ofcourse you'll still get what you need, you don't need nearly as much hard work as a fighter.

                Train as you'll fight and you'll fight as you've trained.

                Talk to us again when you're deep into a fight and all that you have left to throw are those pitty pat shots.

                Or better yet when you are stunned and are on instictive mode, how you train will show up here. What if in this instance of unclearity you begin just touching your opponent. mimicing what you do on a bag? It could happen........ Rockin'
                You should not as a fighter hit the heavy bag with full force all the time. That is simply not true and an outdated mindset.

                Yes you hit the bag hard at times, but you don't need to do it every time. Like I said before, you can use the heavy bag for many things, timing, power, endurance, footwork and angles.

                Floyd has brittle hands, so it would be idiotic for him to be hitting the heavy bag hard at 36 years old and at this stage of his career. Floyd has no problem going into the late rounds either.

                I don't have to pound on the bag, to pound on an opponent...

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                • #28
                  I haven't seen some of these guys hit the heavy bag and can't comment on how hard they're hitting it.

                  However, I know that there are plenty of guys in my gym who think they're hitting the bag hard, when really they're just pushing the bag. A good, snappy punch doesn't have to make the heavy bag swing all over the place.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
                    I haven't seen some of these guys hit the heavy bag and can't comment on how hard they're hitting it.

                    However, I know that there are plenty of guys in my gym who think they're hitting the bag hard, when really they're just pushing the bag. A good, snappy punch doesn't have to make the heavy bag swing all over the place.
                    couldn't agree more. 100%

                    in fact, those that say Floyd is hitting it lightly probably are underestimating what his light punches actually are. Technique makes up a lot of it.

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                    • #30
                      lol dont believe everything you read on the internet genius. The heavy bag is one of the best strength and conditioning tools out there. Go back to your kung fu daniel san

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