weight training in boxing

[Spartacus Sully]

worked for centuries? so you've been at training camps and seen this is person? no you havent.training changes rapidly. noone cares for your **** knowledge how many fights you had? how about we meet up for a fight and we'll see whos rep range works better?

ok, i live in PA hit me up when you get to philly, just shoot me a pm.

ive got extra gloves, head gear, and wraps. just bring a mouth guard.

11 st 5 lbs? youd be giving up 60 lbs to me though.

[dctopboots01]

name one decent fighter that uses 3-5 sets of 3-5 reps at 75-95% 1 rm, and provide proof.

here is a decent fighter

http://www.menshealth.co.uk/building...?click=main_sr

[Spartacus Sully]

here is a decent fighter

http://www.menshealth.co.uk/building...?click=main_sr

The man responsible for his physique, Jamie Sawyer, jamiesawyer.co.uk, tells you how you can get big but stay fast.

thats not actually hayes routine, thats a reccomend routine by jamie sawyer on how to get big and stay fast.

when you heading to philly, ill make some calls and see if we can spar at one of the gyms down there instead of going to allentown where the gym i go to is.

though looking around else where he does do 5*5 sets of bench press squat and weighted pull ups so ill give you that.

how did haye do in his last match?

[dctopboots01]

thats not actually hayes routine, thats a reccomend routine by jamie sawyer on how to get big and stay fast.

when you heading to philly, ill make some calls and see if we can spar at one of the gyms down there instead of going to allentown where the gym i go to is.

though looking around else where he does do 5*5 sets of bench press squat and weighted pull ups so ill give you that.

how did haye do in his last match?

He did better than you ever would have!

[DaveJH]

exactally what i said you were doing, you are nothing but a troll



i highly doubt you can name one decent fighter that ever used 3-5 sets of 3-5 reps at 75-95% 1 rm.

Nothing but a troll? I've got books, actual physical black and white text, that prove that 3-5 reps at the right weight promotes the sort of adaptations that are beneficial for boxing. Developing your fast twitch fibres definitely does not make you slow. What sort of fibres do sprinters such as Bolt train? Their fast twitch. So do long jumpers, high jumpers, shotputters, javelin throwers, anyone who requires anaerobic movement. Boxing is anaerobic, therefore the fast twitch fibres are beneficial. Being a musclebound bodybuilder will make you slower, but training correctly and properly will not. Please read things, it's for your own benefit.

[Spartacus Sully]

Nothing but a troll? I've got books, actual physical black and white text, that prove that 3-5 reps at the right weight promotes the sort of adaptations that are beneficial for boxing. Developing your fast twitch fibres definitely does not make you slow. What sort of fibres do sprinters such as Bolt train? Their fast twitch. So do long jumpers, high jumpers, shotputters, javelin throwers, anyone who requires anaerobic movement. Boxing is anaerobic, therefore the fast twitch fibres are beneficial. Being a musclebound bodybuilder will make you slower, but training correctly and properly will not. Please read things, it's for your own benefit.

no you have books that prove that 3-5 reps at the right weight promotes fast twitch fibers.

you assume a connection between these fibers and boxing and that these fibers are more benifical then slow twitch fibers.

again doing exactly what i said

the guys above me would have you believe im telling you fast twitch fibers are bad when really im saying that too great a ratio of fast twitch fibers is bad.

you are nothing but a troll.

[Spartacus Sully]

He did better than you ever would have!

cong**** one out of the hundreds of world champions used 5*5 sets....

[DaveJH]

no you have books that prove that 3-5 reps at the right weight promotes fast twitch fibers.

you assume a connection between these fibers and boxing and that these fibers are more benifical then slow twitch fibers.

again doing exactly what i said



you are nothing but a troll.

Now I know what people mean when they say never argue with idiots; they drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.

[Scipio]

Almost all professional boxers use weights. Truth is you can't always stick to the same plyos, calisthenic exercises, keep it moving forward or your strength will plateau. weights used for many little purposes. Power lifts include Olympic lifts (cleans, deadlifts, snatch, squat, variations) are perfect for strengthening the posterior chain and working off core strength.

[DaveJH]

I still can't fathom how anyone can say having developed fast twitch fibres is bad for boxing. Considering the sport is around 70% anaerobic, that means the fast twitch fibres will be needed more considering slow twitch fibres are used for aerobic exercise. Ideally fast twitch oxidative fibres will be the most honed in a boxer, however the importance of fast twitch glycolitic and slow twitch can't be neglected.

Yes, if you neglect your conditioning solely to pursue a strength training regime then you're in the wrong, however if you neglect a proven training method in favour of 100 year old, outdated beliefs and 'broscience' then you're also in the wrong.

Some basic knowledge of energy systems also shows how fast twitch fibres are the best for boxing.

The aerobic energy system starts it's work after 3 to 5 minutes of exercise. Boxing rounds are 3 minutes at most, thus the aerobic system gets very little usage unless you're moving around the ring at a frenetic pace.

The ATP-PC system is useful for one-off, explosive movements such as a single shot, ducking, rolling, slipping - all with speed and an explosion.

The lactic acid system can supply energy for a couple of minutes, and thus is clearly useful for boxing, this is honed through high-intensity conditionining exercises.

Therefore, ideally, a boxers regime should concentrate on the lactic acid system and their type IIa fibres primarily, with added work on the ATP-PC system through strength training in an explosive fashion. The best way to gain explosive strength? ''-Power = 1 to 5 repetitions per set, with 70 to 100% of the individual's 1 rep max'' (taken from the excerpt I typed out earlier in this thread.)

Therefore, the fast twitch fibres and the energy systems which supply them should be the primary focus during strength and conditioning training.

A picture of an athlete with a high degree of slow twitch fibres, as 'Spartacus Sully' seems to covet:


Now a picture of Tommy Hearns, a wiry boxer who still manages to look more explosive than the marathon runner. The sheer power Hearns posseses indicates his fast twitch fibres will be extremely well honed as he is able to explode and put forth a gross muscular movement in a short amount of time while generating a huge amount of force.


Despite being wiry and lean, Hearns still looks explosive and anyone who knows boxing knows how hard Hearns could hit. There is not doubt Hearn possessed more fast twitch fibres than slow twitch fibres, thus proving 'Spartacus Sully' wrong.

If slow twitch fibres are what is required for power and performance in boxing - how come it's impossible to find a fighter with the same physique as a marathon runner (marathon runners are undoubtedly the kings of slow twitch fibres.)