weight training in boxing

[Young Money]

boxers use weights, what is a 16oz glove if not a 1 lb weight?

what is your body if not a weight?

what is a heavy bag?

you make generalizes statements so you can make an argument, you only purpose in this thread is to troll along with every one else that makes it seem like im saying dont use weight, when really all im saying is dont use 3-5 sets of 3-5 reps of weight at 75-95% 1rm

the guys above me would have you believe im telling you fast twitch fibers are bad when really im saying that too great a ratio of fast twitch fibers is bad.

your all just trolls, with little to no provable experience in boxing.

i may not have much experience in boxing either...but im not the one claiming that what boxers have been doing for centuries is all wrong. im the one defending what boxers from sullivan to dempsey to srr to ali to mayweather do and did.


seriously though, is it your goal to make ****ty boxers by training that heavy weights is ok so that when they never make anything of themselves they can join mma?

are you guys like mma coaches? or personal trainers? or something? cause i know your not decent boxers or boxing coaches.

I think you're getting hung up on the word "weight" - it's actually strength training.

You won't necessarily be gaining muscle mass from this type of training.

I don't think anyone has claimed what has been done in the past as being wrong.

[DaveJH]

Christ there are some idiots in this world. I've posted articles, and excerpts from books backing up my claims. Sullivan was a great boxer, so was Dempsey but training has moved on since those days for a reason. Mayweather also does weights, it's shown on all of his 24/7 episodes.

3-5 reps at 70% of 1RM is best for power and speed strength, as the excerpt from the book shows. Scientists have also proved this. I fail to see how getting more speed strength is bad at all for boxing.

'Spartacus Sully' you're a ****ing idiot, no two ways about it.

[Spartacus Sully]

3-5 reps at 70% of 1RM is best for power and speed strength, as the excerpt from the book shows. Scientists have also proved this. I fail to see how getting more speed strength is bad at all for boxing.

'Spartacus Sully' you're a ****ing idiot, no two ways about it.

no you're the idiot.

really speed strength?

Speed Strength - Speed strength is defined as the ability to quickly execute an unloaded movement or a movement against a relatively small external resistance. For example, working with a punch-out drill against the heavy bag would equate to the execution of a relatively small external resistance, as the weight of the glove is insignificant.

http://www.rosstraining.com/articles...htraining.html

i believe ross would say youve got speed strength and explosive strength confused.

http://www.rossboxing.com/thegym/thegym24

here you can read about how to improve speed strength.....dosnt say a single thing about 3-5 reps of heavy weight...

[Spartacus Sully]

I think you're getting hung up on the word "weight" - it's actually strength training.

You won't necessarily be gaining muscle mass from this type of training.

I don't think anyone has claimed what has been done in the past as being wrong.

i think your getting hung up on generalized terms like strength training and weight.

what kind of strength training? that maximal strength? endurance strength? speed strength? explosive strength?

Troll!!!!

[DaveJH]

i think your getting hung up on generalized terms like strength training and weight.

what kind of strength training? that maximal strength? endurance strength? speed strength? explosive strength?

Troll!!!!

I was wrong on that instance I'll admit - I simply got my terms mixed up.

I'd much rather get my terms mixed up than to be completely ignorant of proven methods of training. Bernard Hopkins, 46 years old, still fighting lifts weights, so does Mayweather, so did Tyson, Bruno, Nigel Benn, more fighters than I care to name. Just because your idol from 100 years ago didn't do it doesn't mean it's not successful. Look past your hero-worship and look at the numerous facts posted in this thread that are contrary to your opinions.

[Spartacus Sully]

I was wrong on that instance I'll admit - I simply got my terms mixed up.

I'd much rather get my terms mixed up than to be completely ignorant of proven methods of training. Bernard Hopkins, 46 years old, still fighting lifts weights, so does Mayweather, so did Tyson, Bruno, Nigel Benn, more fighters than I care to name. Just because your idol from 100 years ago didn't do it doesn't mean it's not successful. Look past your hero-worship and look at the numerous facts posted in this thread that are contrary to your opinions.

exactally what i said you were doing, you are nothing but a troll

you make generalizes statements so you can make an argument, you only purpose in this thread is to troll along with every one else that makes it seem like im saying dont use weight, when really all im saying is dont use 3-5 sets of 3-5 reps of weight at 75-95% 1rm

i highly doubt you can name one decent fighter that ever used 3-5 sets of 3-5 reps at 75-95% 1 rm.

[dctopboots01]

no you're the idiot.

really speed strength?



http://www.rosstraining.com/articles...htraining.html

i believe ross would say youve got speed strength and explosive strength confused.

http://www.rossboxing.com/thegym/thegym24

here you can read about how to improve speed strength.....dosnt say a single thing about 3-5 reps of heavy weight...

Ha you're an idiot. Speed strength is defined a applying maximum tension for a short space of time eg performaning a DB snatch as quick as possible. Boxers use it. As do sprinters. You clearly have no education.

[dctopboots01]

exactally what i said you were doing, you are nothing but a troll



i highly doubt you can name one decent fighter that ever used 3-5 sets of 3-5 reps at 75-95% 1 rm.

Bernard Hopkins

[dctopboots01]

what have you accomplished in the boxing world that you can prove?

absolutely nothing.

you know marathon runners run 5 min miles for 26 miles straight... i doubt they have that great a fast twitch fiber ratio...and yet they are so fast.


personally i hate personal trainers and people who have done absolutely nothing in the boxing world who show up and **** on how world champion boxers have been training for centuries.

i hate the kind of people who ask what the most logical way to do this better, instead of the people who ask why has this worked so well for centuries?

worked for centuries? so you've been at training camps and seen this is person? no you havent.training changes rapidly. noone cares for your **** knowledge how many fights you had? how about we meet up for a fight and we'll see whos rep range works better?

[Spartacus Sully]

Bernard Hopkins

name one decent fighter that uses 3-5 sets of 3-5 reps at 75-95% 1 rm, and provide proof.