Boxing in self defence?

[fraidycat]

the point of the chin.

I hadn't thought about it, but that's a pretty good one, too. The majority of concussions in boxing used to come from straight punches to the chin, which drives the lower jaw back into the base of the skull. The advent of one-piece upper-and-lower mouthguards have reduced these injuries. Unlikely that someone would be wearing a Shock Doctor on the street.

I'd probably use an elbow, though. I wouldn't throw a heavy punch to the chin with my bare hand. That would really smart.

[REMOVED SHARK 97]

Haven't you heard?

Boxing isn't a Martial Art and is regarded as useless in a street fight, I suggest you learn some MMA and get the guy on the floor and dry hump him into submission.

/Sarcasm.

[Suckmedry]

I don't really aim specifically, just put together two or three straight punches at anywhere on the face but the forehead. Then move off to the side and repeat, or follow straight up if they rock back.

[Lovely]

I hadn't thought about it, but that's a pretty good one, too. The majority of concussions in boxing used to come from straight punches to the chin, which drives the lower jaw back into the base of the skull. The advent of one-piece upper-and-lower mouthguards have reduced these injuries. Unlikely that someone would be wearing a Shock Doctor on the street.

I'd probably use an elbow, though. I wouldn't throw a heavy punch to the chin with my bare hand. That would really smart.

really? one heavy shot to the chin you dont even feel, and the other dude is sprawled out on the ground.

[fraidycat]

really? one heavy shot to the chin you dont even feel, and the other dude is sprawled out on the ground.

Ever break a knuckle? Or a finger? Or a bone in your hand? I've done all three. Broken hands hurt like hell. If you break your hand, you will not use that hand again in that fight. At least, not well. I broke my finger once while working on a high-rise window crew. Let's talk adrenaline. And it still hurt like hell.

I wouldn't count on a lucky punch, and I'm a puncher. If you don't end the fight with that shot, or if he has friends, and you just busted your power hand, congratulations. You are now wading balls-deep in a rising river of suck.

It might work, but I wouldn't do it.

[Reggie Miller]

+ eleventy billion.

I dropped a guy like this not three months ago. Flurried to the head and threw a left shovelhook to his liver. Even with a glove on it put him on his knees. He told me later he had no idea that a bodyshot could hurt like that. And that's the crux of it: people who don't box (or kickbox) competitively have no way to comprehend what a liver shot feels like. They can't.

If you haven't taken a good liver shot, let me tell you: it must be experienced. The liver filters and stores all the toxins ingested by the body. So when you take a heavy punch (or kick, or knee) to the liver, all that crap that's stored up in there -- whatever you drank over the last few days, any drugs, sugar, Big Macs, or other poison you've put into your body over the last 48-72 hours -- gets released into your system. All at once.

It's like being kicked in the nuts except that, whereas a good kick in the nuts builds coils of pressure over 5-10 seconds that ultimately disable you, a clean hit to the liver leaves you on your knees immediately, seeing electric purple Cheetos everywhere and wanting to blow chow and sh-t your pants at the same time.

That said: if for some reason he has his hands down, JAB.

The jab is a counterintuitive weapon. Since it's snapped, it'll sting him and it's fast so he may not even see it. Throw it thumb up, fast fast fast. It's not a heavy followthrough so if you do it right you won't hurt your hands. (I can jab a wall with bare knuckles and make it go ****. So can you if you're doing it right.) And lastly, a jab gets back to your guard quickly so he can't counter. You should have worked your jab more than any other punch -- a hundred times more -- so it should be your best friend.

Actually, that's not lastly. An expert jab shows him that you know how to box and believe me on this -- I'm in the Army and there are "bad@ss" guys everywhere I turn, and I have seen this a few times, now -- most guys, no matter how tough they are, do not want to fight a trained boxer. A couple of snappy jabs from behind a solid guard and you may find his buddies "holding him back so he doesn't hurt you."

Jab him, get him flinching away with his hands up, and if he's dumb enough to keep coming, drive a hook to the liver and end the thing.

I've said it before and I stand by it: boxing is not a street-practical martial art. What makes a boxer a dangerous adversary is not punching ability. It's defense, reflexes, and the ability to take a beating.

You're not going to take anything away from backyard boxing or "body boxing" or any of that homeschooled bullsh-t that will help you on the street. You want to bring something to the fight, you need to get in a gym, get on a team, and get some matches under your belt. This will condition you to keep fighting through more psychological and physical trauma than you have ever imagined you could take, to keep your guard up and your chin down and your head cool, even when you're spitting blood and seeing fireworks. You keep taking the fight to him and you never give up come pain, come blood, no matter what, ever, until that bell rings or you beat the prick unconscious. THAT is the edge that this sport gives you. Not punching. Punching is the means to the end. Toughness is the end.

Thats is by far some of the best advice on using boxing in street fighting I've come across in all my time here, very well written/explained.

I've been in a few fights and I always rely on getting my shots off first and hitting the body definitely gets a guy thinking he don't no more.

Street fighting is all about confidence too, I can't count the amount of times I've threatened my way out of a fight, even with bigger men (I'm 5'11).

Worst comes to worst, wait for the guy to rush you and catch him with a check hook, most dudes try and bullrush you and are open as fuck to take a clean shot that will put their lights out.

[shezada]

whats a check hook^?

[Reggie Miller]

whats a check hook^?

But in a street fight most guys will rush in quicker and be more wreckless, so the power of your punch coupled with the speed they rush in with will result in a KO 9 times out of 10.

[Suckmedry]

I don't know if I would try a check hook, I'd be worried about losing my footing, especially on ashphalt or something or wearing casual shoes. If a guy rushes in, I'd move back and to the side and stick out the jab. Or if there was little space to move back, I might try the check hook.

[Toy Story 3]

@ fraidycat well explained. It's funny because I was talking to my trainer about the liver shot on Monday. He basically said the same stuff you did, it's like a version of getting kicked in the ballz. From experiencing the hit, I agree. Head shots are easier to land but body shots will stay with you longer. I work on going to the body on the bag and sparring often. You just gotta know how to set up punches, slip, move, ect. Back in my young days man I use to street fight and get hit with silly punches on the way in. Boxing is awesome I love it man, I've learned how to be a thinking fighter.

@ One more round
I wouldn't throw a check hook either. Balance, shoes, pretty much what you said are all factors. Maybe if the dude was drunk coming at you it'll be fine haha.