Who can bench press twice their body weight?

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    #21
    Originally posted by fraidycat
    I should've read these replies first. My apologies to all you who beat me to it.

    I would be curious to know what the heavily-muscled guys here -- Versy and DA1CATAS -- bench.
    Funny story. I broke 2 toes sailing this week... lol.

    From what I understand DA1CATAS doesn't lift.

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    • kryo
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      #22
      Originally posted by !Philthy Rich
      No boxer should be able to do bench their own weight. Never mind double it. Unless they are way to musclebound. They would have too much weight and no cardio at all.
      .. Benching your own weight doesn't even involve a weight lifting regime. Most males can bench there own weight without any specific training at all - it's called being in shape.

      Think about it, a professional boxer.. boxing for 10-15 years.. you honestly think they can't bench there own weight? Rediculous.

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      • Clegg
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        #23
        Originally posted by Bizzle_LDN
        I run 6 km 4-5 times a week and I do a lot of cycling to and from training. I don't weigh too much I'm **** on 11 stone. Is this abnormal then?
        No, it's just that the other guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

        The only thing I would say is that you might want to be careful about boxing when you've had a lifting session that day before. Muscle soreness will probably affect your boxing performance, and hitting a punch bag 600 times may slow down muscle recovery time. As you've been doing both for a while I'm guessing you're already aware of this though.

        If you're seeing improvements in your boxing ability and weight lifting strength then you're probably doing things right

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        • jberg
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          #24
          i think the real question is how tall are you, and how long are your arms?
          to benchpress 140kg at 70kg you would need short arms to have the muscle density to do it.

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            #25
            I agree, if you are becoming a better boxer because you are lifting, great. But while goals can be helpful, you might find that a boxing specific goal would be better than measuirng weight you're lifing, because your boxing skills might not collerate with the amount you're lifting.

            It also depends on where your priorities are - do you want to box better, are you interested in other sports or do you just want to look good :-) It's all up to you mate, but just don't get caught up on competing with numbers cause they might not help you in the ring.

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            • JJ85
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              #26
              Bear in mind, have you ever heard a boxer saying "if only I could have benched 10lb more I woulda beat the guy"

              Personally for every two days of weights I do one day of boxing. Im looking to also include more cardio. I can hit harder after push-ups than I can doing some bench presses. How many times are you pressing this weight?

              It all depends if your in it to gain muscle or box. I find the more I weight train the more it debilitates my boxing skills - of which I have not a lot lol.

              Its great to find how everyone's weights affect them. What other things apart from bench presses do you do ?

              If it works for you then keep at it, you will know soon enough if your boxing deterioates because of it, even ask your trainer his opinion he/she may advise only doing two days weights and the rest boxing, just to increase punching power.

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              • Bizzle_LDN
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                #27
                Originally posted by jberg
                i think the real question is how tall are you, and how long are your arms?
                to benchpress 140kg at 70kg you would need short arms to have the muscle density to do it.
                I am between 5'10 & 1/2/ 5'11, not sure what my reach is but I am proportioned!

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                • Bizzle_LDN
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Clegg
                  No, it's just that the other guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

                  The only thing I would say is that you might want to be careful about boxing when you've had a lifting session that day before. Muscle soreness will probably affect your boxing performance, and hitting a punch bag 600 times may slow down muscle recovery time. As you've been doing both for a while I'm guessing you're already aware of this though.

                  If you're seeing improvements in your boxing ability and weight lifting strength then you're probably doing things right
                  Most definitely, that is the biggest disadvantage of weight training in boxing training, muscle fatigue. I find 2 days rest is necessary from weights to have a good boxing workout (when I mean good I mean both quick jabs and combinations, plus power punches etc).

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                  • PunchDrunk
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Bizzle_LDN
                    Most definitely, that is the biggest disadvantage of weight training in boxing training, muscle fatigue. I find 2 days rest is necessary from weights to have a good boxing workout (when I mean good I mean both quick jabs and combinations, plus power punches etc).
                    If you need two days rest either 1. You're going about your weight training the wrong way for boxing, or 2. your work capacity isn't where it should be, or 3. You don't eat and rest properly, resulting in poor recovery.

                    It is certainly true that benching double your weight is not a benchmark (pun intended) for success in boxing. Weight training for boxing shouldn't so much be a numbers game. All you need is an increase in general strength from doing the weights, since this increase in strength will actually provide a potential for increase in speed, power and explosiveness, which proper boxing training will help to convert it to.

                    The whole "muscle fatigue" thing is quite funny, really. I mean, no one complains about roadwork making you tired, and therefore it should be avoided by boxers, right? It is obvious that you shouldn't run sprints or 15k an hour before a fight. Same with weight training, you need to do it at the right time in your training program. Yes, recovering from it will leave you tired and feeling heavy sometimes, but so will every other form of training! That is the purpose of training; to forve your body to supercompensate, hence making you stronger, faster and more enduring.

                    PS: To the guy who said no boxer should be able to bench his own bodyweight: HAHA, I guess that just shows how weak you are! every man on the planet should be able to bench his own BW, if not, there is something wrong with you.

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                    • PunchDrunk
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                      #30
                      Also, the people who say you become too muscle bound from being strong: Ever hear of neural adaptations? Ever hear of the concept of strength training as opposed to body building? You need at least a minimum of knowledge before you say something about these things, so get the basics straight at least.

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