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Who can bench press twice their body weight?
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Originally posted by Pots'N'Pans View PostLol, since when raw physical strength is a liability in boxing?
When they are too msuclebound like Lacy against Calzaghe. Too much weight added = less speed and less stamina.
But this guy is not on about raw strength someone can't just bench their own weight just like that.
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Originally posted by !Philthy Rich View PostIt all depends on what weight you fight at. If your a heavyweight you don't need speed just power. So they would use loads of weights.
When they are too msuclebound like Lacy against Calzaghe. Too much weight added = less speed and less stamina.
But this guy is not on about raw strength someone can't just bench their own weight just like that.
That's some knowledge, young man.
However I would suggest you search this forum on implementation of weight training in boxing.
You would be very suprised.
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Vic Darchinyan, can bench 120kg when he fights at like 52kg - n his nowhere near muslce bound
I think it should be just a supplement to training - maybe only once or twice a week, it'll end up giving you overall strength but not really improve your punching
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Originally posted by !Philthy Rich View PostIt all depends on what weight you fight at. If your a heavyweight you don't need speed just power. So they would use loads of weights.
When they are too msuclebound like Lacy against Calzaghe. Too much weight added = less speed and less stamina.
But this guy is not on about raw strength someone can't just bench their own weight just like that.
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Originally posted by Pots'N'Pans View Post*smacks his head against the keyboard.*
That's some knowledge, young man.
However I would suggest you search this forum on implementation of weight training in boxing.
You would be very suprised.
I am aware weight training helps you to build stamina in your muscles and can aid muscle mass. But, overdoing it which is what you would have to do to bech ya own body weight will do more harm than good.
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Originally posted by Bizzle_LDN View PostFor the record I am like a third of the size of the guys I've seen lift that much! I wouldn't classify it raw strength because I've been able to lift as much through training but I have always been strong and thin if that makes sense. I haven't had a amateur fight yet, I'll have to wait and see if it is positive or negative on my boxing!
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Originally posted by !Philthy Rich View PostNo boxer should be able to do bench their own weight. Never mind double it. Unless they are way to musclebound. They would have too much weight and no cardio at all.
I'm 170, fight at 165, and while I have no idea what I max bench, I was just screwing around on the machines at my buddy's condo-building weight room and repped the whole stack -- 250 lbs -- reciting dirty limericks the whole time. I know it's not a barbell, and free weights are harder (I used to bodybuild; I know how it works), but I'm scary Goddamned strong and I'm not remotely muscle-bound.
Heh. My chiropractor quit testing the grip strength in my hands a couple of weeks ago as I've recovered from my car wreck (bulging discs causing a right hand parasthesia) because his dynamometer doesn't go that high.
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This is a very interesting topic as i just came back from weight training. For the longest time i didn't do any weight lifting because the trainers at my old gym always said it was bad.
When i started mixed martial arts like 3 years ago i also started weight lifting. I am a heavyweight, I'm 6'4 and around 230 pounds. I started weight training very slowly, these days i only lift weights once a week(Aside from the punch ups, sit-ups and pull-ups i do every day.) as i don't want to end up weighting 280 pounds. I bench press 260 pounds(just a bit more than my own body weight), 4 sets of 10 reps and i am happy with that. I do various exercises with 65 pounds dumbbells and i do some 320 pounds deadlift, 4 sets of 5. I didn't gain much weight, i lost some fat and gained a bit of muscle.
I could easily do more but i am a fighter, not a body builder and in all honesty i have not noticed much difference in terms of punching power. The only thing is: my punches feel just a bit heavier when they hit the bag. Even when grappling i don't notice any difference, i don't feel stronger than i felt before.
All in all, i think weight lifting is not necessary for fighting sports. Pratical strenght and the strenght you gain from weight lifting are very different. It can be good to do a little but don't abuse it.
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