Boxing useless in a Bar Brawl?

[Trick]

Boxing is the reason I survive in a street fight. Most martial artists, excluding the best, have no real FIGHT experience. Let's be honest, the goal of boxing is to hurt. Not that I go out trying to mess someone up, but in the end, it comes down to inflicting pain, and it's got a type of malice to it. Now I don't do any marial arts, so I can't really comment I suppose, but from the matches I've seen, the adreneline and intensity of a real FIGHT doesn't seem to be there. Just remember, there's no ref to push you apart when you clinch...

[j]

Most martial artists, excluding the best, have no real FIGHT experience.

let's be honest, you don't know any real martial artists.

stop it now and i will let you get away with that bull****. just once though.

[warriorsingh84']

I can't say really for sure how effective boxing reallly is in a real fight since I have limited sparring experience and only spar like once a week. One thing for sure though, I don't think anyone can dispute, is that boxing definitely gives you balls to hold your own in the real world. It can turn a shy, insecure guy, into a fearless badass with consistent training. Not to mention, it helps prevent your pulse from quickening and fear from overwhelming you in a confrontation.

[Trick]

let's be honest, you don't know any real martial artists.

stop it now and i will let you get away with that bull****. just once though.

Haha, ya that's true, I shoulda said that better. A real martial artist I'm sure could do well. What I meant was a kid who does karate on thursday nights cannot handle himself in a fight, at least in my experience. A real marital artist? No, I would not **** with him

Haha, btw, I take it then that you do practice some kinda marital art, if so what is it? While we're on the topic, I saw you mention that you do chinese boxing, I was wondering what the difference is, if that's not a ****** question.

Anyways, didn't mean to disrespect true martial artists,

Peace,
Trick

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In Watch My Back, Geoff talks about traditional martial arts and how they haven’t been adapted to today’s world, as though they are too sacred to be touched, even though today’s adversary is no longer a samurai on horseback.
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I just took this quote from an article. This guy spent 10 years as a bouncer, and is ment to have had more than 300 streetfights. Hes a 6th dan black belt in Karate, and a 1st dan blackbelt in Judo, aswell as being a boxing instructor, and wrestling instructor ( I htink ) etc etc. when he started being a bouncer he realised that his karate techniques werent working, but he adapted them to work.

[me2007]

let's be honest, you don't know any real martial artists.

stop it now and i will let you get away with that bull****. just once though.

how would you define a real martial artist?

[j]

Haha, ya that's true, I shoulda said that better. A real martial artist I'm sure could do well. What I meant was a kid who does karate on thursday nights cannot handle himself in a fight, at least in my experience. A real marital artist? No, I would not **** with him

i hear ya bro. it's all good! no love lost here.

your typical "around the corner" tae kwon do or karate places aren't really known for creating great fighters. i mean, there are exceptions, but well, i think you know what i mean.

yeah bro, you would not want to **** with a real martial artist. just slapboxing with some of the guys better than me is scary. exciting and scary all rolled into one experience.

i would rather spit in mike tyson's face than challenge a few guys i've met.

Haha, btw, I take it then that you do practice some kinda marital art, if so what is it? While we're on the topic, I saw you mention that you do chinese boxing, I was wondering what the difference is, if that's not a ****** question.

not a ****** question at all. chinese boxing has a different means of power generation. it includes all of the regular boxing punches. it also includes low kicks, throws, pushes, and so on. it does not, however, have flying triple somersault back kicks. it is a practical art at heart.

dude, i'll just PM you so you can get an idea of what it is i do.

btw, no offence taken. its all good.

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I htink Chinese boxing is what the guy I just quoted did. Sounds good

[j]

how would you define a real martial artist?

a person who trains in a fighting art, whether traditional or untraditional, that has been pressure tested - aka unrehearsed, noncooperative sparring and is able to utilize the principles of whatever this person has been taught.

also, having a few streetfights in the bank helps enormously.

btw, boxers make great streetfighters.

I htink Chinese boxing is what the guy I just quoted did. Sounds good

yes, it is called chinese boxing by many as it resembles boxing very much in that it is mainly a punch orientated art with the same goal - to KO the other person. it is called xing yi.

http://www.emptyflower.com/xingyiquan/index.html

[phallus]

a person who trains in a fighting art, whether traditional or untraditional, that has been pressure tested - aka unrehearsed, noncooperative sparring and is able to utilize the principles of whatever this person has been taught.

also, having a few streetfights in the bank helps enormously.

btw, boxers make great streetfighters.

streetfighting isn't like boxing, as a buddy once said to me when we were in a bar " this isn't a boxing ring ". street fights are very sloppy and it's usually 3 or 5 guys on one. last summer was the last time i was in a streetfight, i got jumped by 3 guys. the skills i learned in amateur boxing really saved my ass, i covered up pretty well and didn't take very much damage, and almost knocked one the guys the **** out.

a boxer definitely has an advantage over most dumb rednecks in a bar because they don't usually have the training or experience a boxer has - they don't know how to cover up, how to throw proper punches, or how to move their head