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Streetfights are rarely 1 on 1. so boxing is better. Also to get the first strike in boxing is better.
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i dont agree...he was still using footwork and leveredge in his punches to get maximum power... you make it sound like he's just flaling his arms around...plus he used his experience to get them to the cage and use up and down techniques to the body and head...
i dont believe you can be en effective streetfighter with ju jitsu ... are you going to get side control and **** an americana on them and break their arm on a sidewalk?
If you start trying to do that, anyone can walk up to you uninhibited....with boxing, you are on your feet and can move...
Have you seen the ultimate fighter? some of those guys dont have the personality to do anything to anyone outside of an octagon..
what i will say is that its the guy in the fight not the style
its been proved in the cage the best style is a mixture of boxing and ju jitsu, either on their own has gaps.Last edited by me2007; 02-22-2007, 11:42 AM.Comment
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Ok, we have to be considering 1 on 1 fights here. I'm not talking about mismatches. If you are fighting 3 people by yourself, then theres no possible way you will have an advantage even if you are a world champion boxer.Originally posted by platinummatt! View PostComment
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I dont know. Tyson prime may be able to defeat 3 guys I recon. Ok but for 1 on 1. Boxing is still up there cos its what you can get the first strike in with.Comment
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all this mma is better for street fight is bull**** last time i faught in the streets was infront of a McDonalds some 1 one pushed me we had a few words and he swang at me i grabbed him with 1 hand and punched with the other next thing i know we slip on the floor (it rained before) so we wrestle for a min i get the best out of it i'm on top of him pounding his face (missed a few punches hands hurts... :@) his boys start to join in... if i kept "Ground and Pounding mma style) i woulda eat a soccer kick straight up... luckyly his boys helped the dude up and didn't even try to come at me..
result of all this bull**** = dirty clothes, broken glasses, a bloody eye...
DON'T FIGHT IN THE STREETS IT SUCKS
i guess in a standing street fight boxing would be best cause not so many fights are faught from a distance and "stick n move style" any dude with a minimum of boxing experience would be able to slip punches.. while the other untrained dude would be an easy targetLast edited by leow; 02-22-2007, 11:49 AM.Comment
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Dog, have u ever seen Tank Abbott vs John Matua? Or Tank vs Steve Nelmark? No skill...no technique. It was just an all out attack. No setup, no thought, no movement. I mean if you think Tank had "some skill" then thats fine...the average tough guy in the street thinks he has skill because hes seen Rocky 1-5. But if you want to take the closest organized fighting example of a "street vs skill" match, then Tank Abbott is who you look at. Tank even labeled himself as a street fighter.Originally posted by me2007 View Post
The point I was getting at.Originally posted by me2007 View PostComment
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Every street fight I have seen consisted of a 10-20 second mess of wide punches ending in both men exhausted.
I think it has a big advantage granted you are pretty good at what you do. I know in a fight you arent "boxing" but you still learn how to avoid punches and punch the right way. You also train to go rounds at a high pace, where as a regular joe gets exhausted after 4 haymakers.
This is obviously the case if the other guy didnt have a weapon, or wasnt much bigger than you. If a 6'5 300 pound guy grabs me, boxing wont help me much.Comment
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I wanted to add, that learning how to throw combos on a heavy bag in your basement is not, by my definition in my above post, "boxing." Neither is ****ing around with your buddies in a basement-sparring scenario. I really do believe that to get the most out of boxing from a practical / self-defense aspect, you need to compete. The rules inside the ring are not a street fight, but what you learn in there -- and outside of there -- are where, IMO, the benefits of boxing truly lie. The ring makes you tough. It makes you think under fire. It points out your faults, as well as your strengths. It shows you how much pain you can take -- and give. It makes you physically, emotionally, and mentally tough.
This from a guy who's been in two fights since he left high school. The first one I got my nose busted and got the crap kicked out of me b/c I froze when I saw the punch coming in, and was so paralyzed by the force (and novelty) of a hit to the face that I just locked up and had no idea what to do. This was before I started boxing.
The other fight was after I'd been boxing for about 4 months. A guy I'd been having trouble with for some time tried to sucker-punch me. But even after as little boxing training as I'd had, I could see him shuffle his feet and chamber the punch (and he thought he was being sneaky!
) and I knew exactly where it was coming from and when. I ducked it, pivoted, and slid back out of range with my guard up, and he put his fist through the wall right where my head had been. It would've caught me above the ear and put me out; as it was, he broke several bones in his hand and his wrist, and received a bill for the repairs. I didn't have to touch him, and he still went to the hospital. I literally could've killed him at that point -- it would've been a simple matter to kick him in both shins, run his head into the wall, and and monkey-stomp him, if I'd wanted to.
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Originally posted by fraidycat View PostI wanted to add, that learning how to throw combos on a heavy bag in your basement is not, by my definition in my above post, "boxing." Neither is ****ing around with your buddies in a basement-sparring scenario. I really do believe that to get the most out of boxing from a practical / self-defense aspect, you need to compete. The rules inside the ring are not a street fight, but what you learn in there -- and outside of there -- are where, IMO, the benefits of boxing truly lie. The ring makes you tough. It makes you think under fire. It points out your faults, as well as your strengths. It shows you how much pain you can take -- and give. It makes you physically, emotionally, and mentally tough.
This from a guy who's been in two fights since he left high school. The first one I got my nose busted and got the crap kicked out of me b/c I froze when I saw the punch coming in, and was so paralyzed by the force (and novelty) of a hit to the face that I just locked up and had no idea what to do. This was before I started boxing.
The other fight was after I'd been boxing for about 4 months. A guy I'd been having trouble with for some time tried to sucker-punch me. But even after as little boxing training as I'd had, I could see him shuffle his feet and chamber the punch (and he thought he was being sneaky! ) and I knew exactly where it was coming from and when. I ducked it, pivoted, and slid back out of range with my guard up, and he put his fist through the wall right where my head had been. It would've caught me above the ear and put me out; as it was, he broke several bones in his hand and his wrist, and received a bill for the repairs. I didn't have to touch him, and he still went to the hospital. I literally could've killed him at that point -- it would've been a simple matter to kick him in both shins, run his head into the wall, and and monkey-stomp him, if I'd wanted to.
You should add how much of a **** this guy wasComment
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