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  • #81
    Originally posted by j View Post
    dr filth, no prob, i figured we were on the same page.

    i've actually noticed 2 trends from "streetfighters" - meaning guys who have fought a few times without recieving some training - they are either very wild or, interestingly, try to mimic boxers in a sense.
    anyone else seem to notice this.
    exactly, it's either looping punches with no defense or guys that fight a little like boxers. i know an older guy who spent 10 or 15 years of his early life in streetgangs, he never learned any boxing but damn he's a good fighter, he has his own way of blocking and slipping punches. i think some of these guys either learn form experience or have the natural instinct to be a good fighter

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    • #82
      Its simply a matter of the situation. Theres no clear cut answer to this.

      All Im saying is that a good boxer does not always have an advantage in the street people. 90% of the time you can't fight the same way in the street as you would in the ring. Theres so many variables and "ifs" in a brawl that suddenly breaks out in the street.

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      • #83
        I would say, Boxing HELPs in a street brawl, but not to the point of a martial art.

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        • #84
          i know an older guy who spent 10 or 15 years of his early life in streetgangs, he never learned any boxing but damn he's a good fighter, he has his own way of blocking and slipping punches. i think some of these guys either learn form experience or have the natural instinct to be a good fighter
          i know the kind. those are the kind of people that have to spend time on thinking how to defend oneself. some can be very dangerous. if they would make some use of the developed skills, they could make a nice living doing a certain jobs. however, i think mf doom rapped "you can't take the street out a street person."

          Theres no clear cut answer to this.
          there never is.

          I would say, Boxing HELPs in a street brawl, but not to the point of a martial art.
          and i would agree. however, if we are talking about a boxer who has 20 amateur fightes and a tae kwon do guy who has 20 point sparring first place trophies, i will put my money on the boxer.

          btw, i'm not trying to **** on tkd, just saying point sparring tourny's are useless. me, and the boxing community in general, do harder **** for practice. or fun.

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          • #85
            TKD is garbage. If you said a Karate guy vs a boxer, it would go the other way. I agree that a boxer with good forward movement could beat a TKD guy.

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            • #86
              TKD is garbage. If you said a Karate guy vs a boxer, it would go the other way. I agree that a boxer with good forward movement could beat a TKD guy.
              i'm just trying to be diplomatic, bro. i'm sure that there are at least a handfull of tkd people who can throw down. i don't know of any though.

              oh yeah, and this:

              there are no problems with space when you use low straight kicks...big fancy high kicks wont do **** for you...
              i agree with. the waist line is the cutoff point for serious practical application. however, i do know of 2 people who have used them(high kicks) in real fights. i will briefly mention it because it was unusual to see.

              one person, an old friend of mine drop kicked a guy onto the hood of a car which, i believe, rendered him unconscious.

              the other one, another old friend, used several high kicks and even jump spinning back kicks effectively. as robert ripley would say, "believe it or not." this guy fought nearly a dozen people single handedly and not only held his own but manage to beat the living **** out of them and especially guy who started it all with a ground and pound. and these were grown men, not kids. this fight, which i was restrained from participating in(hell, i was only 12 or 13 years old), was the single greatest one-against-many fight i haver ever witnessed. i have never seen anything on video or the net that could even come close to rivaling it either. not even a baseball bat to the head slowed him down. he is an amazing fighter. wish i knew where he is at these days. you had to be there to see it otherwise you just wouldn't believe it.

              believe it or not. i'm just glad i had seen it. btw, he was a kickboxer.

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