How much muscle can be put on in 4 1/2 months?

[phallus]

almost anything is possible. i had a buddy who was fat and out of shape, i started bringing him to the gym with me. in less than 3 months he'd totally changed his body, going from a fatass 245 lbs to a strong looking 217, and his chest had grown about two inches bigger.

[Ringo]

A lot of what you can do also depends on how you want to look. If your looking to bulk into some muscle, expect your "cuts" to suffer. Its the science of muscle building. Everyone has been right so far, saying it depends on how you work out, how hard you go, what you eat, etc. Just want to throw this out there - also depends on what you take. When I was bulking earlier this year, I ramped up my diet and took a suppliment. I gained 9 pounds in a month. Granted, I only kept about 3 pounds when I got off, but I cycled it incorrectly. There are tons of legal options that can help you put on muscle. Its an equation; effort + diet + rest = result.

[RyanSpaulding]

So what amount of effort builds the most muscle? I've heard high weight, low reps to failure...

I've also heard moderate weight with high reps to failure. I need some sort of routine to get this going. Thinking about taking Creatine and Protein during bulking...is there anything else I should look at?

Also, is it better to bulk for say months and then cut for a few weeks...or would say...3 1/2 weeks of a month bulk, then 1 week cut, and repeat each month?

Thanks a ton for your advice by the way guys!

[leff]

look im not gonna argue over something that has been scientificly proven.

bout 10lbs a year is extremely good, many who starts lifting and bulking will gain more weight, but the 10 is in pure muscle, sure you gain a lot more with more water and food in the body, more glykogen the muscles, hihger bodyfat percentage.

ask any top bodybuilder and/ore doctor

[leff]

Depending on your diet and training routine you can put 5-10 times that amount on in that same time frame. The gain may not be benificial to a boxer, but would not be an unobtainable feat. WITHOUT steroids. By consuming mass qty of Protiene, 1g per every lb of body weight per day included with a diet that will support the work you will have to do.
Isolating muscle groups, Pyramid to close your max. Training to failure then using back off sets. Using various exersizes to max the range of motion for the muscle being worked. Tactics like this are not benificial to a boxer in fact may hurt your efforts as a fighter, but will put on muscle and fast.

5-10 times? are you telling me that you think its possibel to gain 15-40 off muscle in 4 months?

[leff]

So what amount of effort builds the most muscle? I've heard high weight, low reps to failure...

I've also heard moderate weight with high reps to failure. I need some sort of routine to get this going. Thinking about taking Creatine and Protein during bulking...is there anything else I should look at?

Also, is it better to bulk for say months and then cut for a few weeks...or would say...3 1/2 weeks of a month bulk, then 1 week cut, and repeat each month?

Thanks a ton for your advice by the way guys!

if your new to lifting and are trying to bulk i would recomends mid rep baseexcersises for some months.

for example

3 x 10-12 deadlifts
3 x 10-12 squats
3 x 10-12 benchpress
3 x 10-12 downpull
3 x 10-12 militarypress

do this 2-3 times and week for the first couple off months before changing to a split.

aslo eat a lot but healthy like 6-7 meals a day off oaths, fresh pasta, brown rice, chicken, turkey, steaks, fish, eggs and healhty fats like avocado,nuts,salmon,oliveoil,fishoil, almonds etc

[KingDosia]

5-10 times? are you telling me that you think its possibel to gain 15-40 off muscle in 4 months?

It's not only possible it is done by athletes like bodybuilders on a regular basis.

for the thread starter I am not sure what your intentions are, but if you are going for looks more than performance. Add mass by going heavy pyramiding to a higher weight for fewer reps to failure. Then do a drop off set. Isolate muscle groups and work them methodicly ie. chest, shoulders day one. legs back day two, biceps triceps day three. ect etc. Train to failure for each exersize. when you get to a point you want to "cut up" your diet and the amount of cardio and aerobics is what you will want to change. These types of exersizes are what will use the fat between and surrounding your muscle tissue. Use whey protiene isolates to get to a targeted 1g of protiene per lb of body weight. Your Creatine isn't a godsend or miracle suplement. It helps with recovery time, but not what its cracked up to be by advertisements. You can certainly gain a lot of mass without any supplement. Eat smart and natural protiene and complex carbs. with plenty of water, Fruits and veggies and train smart allowing a day inbetween work out sessions or so to recover. I know a body builder I used to train with who had a schedule like this and could pack on 20 lbs in weeks. Granted Genetics play an important role, But given you take in the right nutrients and protiens work the right way these reults are not that hard to obtain.

[leff]

It's not only possible it is done by athletes like bodybuilders on a regular basis.

for the thread starter I am not sure what your intentions are, but if you are going for looks more than performance. Add mass by going heavy pyramiding to a higher weight for fewer reps to failure. Then do a drop off set. Isolate muscle groups and work them methodicly ie. chest, shoulders day one. legs back day two, biceps triceps day three. ect etc. Train to failure for each exersize. when you get to a point you want to "cut up" your diet and the amount of cardio and aerobics is what you will want to change. These types of exersizes are what will use the fat between and surrounding your muscle tissue. Use whey protiene isolates to get to a targeted 1g of protiene per lb of body weight. Your Creatine isn't a godsend or miracle suplement. It helps with recovery time, but not what its cracked up to be by advertisements. You can certainly gain a lot of mass without any supplement. Eat smart and natural protiene and complex carbs. with plenty of water, Fruits and veggies and train smart allowing a day inbetween work out sessions or so to recover. I know a body builder I used to train with who had a schedule like this and could pack on 20 lbs in weeks. Granted Genetics play an important role, But given you take in the right nutrients and protiens work the right way these reults are not that hard to obtain.

im gonna ned a source for that since it goes against everything ive learned, no disrespect but i dont belive you

[LeanMean]

Iv always found BIG gains with anabolic cycling.... So have a lot of my mates to, and thats without the anabolic steroids, its like doing what the steroids do but naturally (obviously it wont be as big a gains as if you were pumping steroids in but you dont wanna do that **** anyway)

[Banderivets]

10 in 4 months aint possibel ask any doctor

Thats why say Howard for Dallas gained 30lb in one season? And this guy aint fat. *NBA