Baldomir-Mayweather reportedly does 325,000 buys

[Guest]

No they arent, Mosley-Vargas 1 and 2 did more than that. The first did well over 400K buys. Most UFC events do higher buys than 300K. The fact that he's been a pay-per-view fighter since last year, and there has been no growth in his buy numbers shows legit problems with his ability to sell fights.

Again, the Mosley-Vargas fights were between two superstars. When has Mosley ever carried his own PPV? How about Vargas? They never have.

I wasn't talking about UFC. I don't really know too much about it, but it caters to a different audience. That's like comparing how many people watch the Super Bowl to the number of people watching the World Series...

If his numbers show a problem selling fights, then nobody in the business but Oscar can sell a fight. Mayweather's number are as good as any other superstar in the sport and you also have to consider he carried this fight and its promotion.

Let's compare apples to apples...

[Guest]

known mexican fighter(margarito)

This is an oxymoron...

not a lot of people are familiar with Baldomir, casual fans i'm talking about, basically the majority of folks who sway the ppv numbers.

Casual fans don't know Margarito either. I would say less know Margarito than Baldomir because Baldomir is now known by a lot more casual fans because he fought Mayweather.

Why is it so hard for you to understand Margarito is just not a draw? ESPN PPV stopped doing boxing PPVs because Margarito-Cintron had terrible numbers. Margarito-Gomez did a pitiful 30k buys. Margarito is on the undercard in his next fight. Do the math...

[ferocity]

This is an oxymoron...



Casual fans don't know Margarito either. I would say less know Margarito than Baldomir because Baldomir is now known by a lot more casual fans because he fought Mayweather.

Why is it so hard for you to understand Margarito is just not a draw? ESPN PPV stopped doing boxing PPVs because Margarito-Cintron had terrible numbers. Margarito-Gomez did a pitiful 30k buys. Margarito is on the undercard in his next fight. Do the math...

My brother is your casual fan. Which is why i was surprised he knew who Margrito is. If he knows who Margarito is then so do many others. All he buys are ppv and hbo. Thats it. He even bought the Tyson fight.

Its ridicules to say nobody knows who he is and its even more ridicules to point to the Gomez ppv, or the Cintron ppv, where Margarito-Cintron wasn't advertised but till last minute, it was supposed to be Juan Diaz to be the main event. But i don't expect you to know this.

Before Gatti, what other ppv did Floyd take part in?

[El Jesus]

No they arent, Mosley-Vargas 1 and 2 did more than that. The first did well over 400K buys. Most UFC events do higher buys than 300K. The fact that he's been a pay-per-view fighter since last year, and there has been no growth in his buy numbers shows legit problems with his ability to sell fights.

Mosley and Vargas are draws themselves. I think your being unfair BPP, 325,000 with a ****ty undercard, and basically Floyd carrying it himself is a suprise to me. Over 300k to me is legit. Because thats what most legit PPV's do. Him and Gatti helped each other in that PPV, Zab/Floyd was very popular, especially in the hip hop community, but this one, it was mostly floyd. With his style and his demeanor, the fact that it sold this much is decent.

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Again, the Mosley-Vargas fights were between two superstars. When has Mosley ever carried his own PPV? How about Vargas? They never have.

I wasn't talking about UFC. I don't really know too much about it, but it caters to a different audience. That's like comparing how many people watch the Super Bowl to the number of people watching the World Series...

If his numbers show a problem selling fights, then nobody in the business but Oscar can sell a fight. Mayweather's number are as good as any other superstar in the sport and you also have to consider he carried this fight and its promotion.

Let's compare apples to apples...

It as by two superstars past their prime, and neither had a major fight in years. ****, Mosley sunk to the point of fighting on ESPN pay-per-views. But, you made my point for me, outside of Oscar, these guys cant sell fights. When Oscar leaves, if 325K is the best a top of hill could do, then it's really looking dim for the sport. It may not even be all Mayweather's fault, as the promoters are killing the sport with them, but they have no choice but to put fights on pay-per-view when a top-rated fighter demands 5-10 million to take a fight.

[Guest]

My brother is your casual fan. Which is why i was surprised he knew who Margrito is. If he knows who Margarito is then so do many others. All he buys are ppv and hbo. Thats it. He even bought the Tyson fight.

Its ridicules to say nobody knows who he is and its even more ridicules to point to the Gomez ppv, or the Cintron ppv, where Margarito-Cintron wasn't advertised but till last minute, it was supposed to be Juan Diaz to be the main event. But i don't expect you to know this.

Before Gatti, what other ppv did Floyd take part in?

I'm sure a few people know Margarito. That does not mean he's popular. He is not a draw. There's a difference between people knowing who you are and people paying to see you fight. Margarito hasn't shown the latter and that's all it comes down to...

Gatti was Floyd's first PPV and it did 350k+ buys. What's your point?

[SquareCircle]

This is an oxymoron...



Casual fans don't know Margarito either. I would say less know Margarito than Baldomir because Baldomir is now known by a lot more casual fans because he fought Mayweather.

Why is it so hard for you to understand Margarito is just not a draw? ESPN PPV stopped doing boxing PPVs because Margarito-Cintron had terrible numbers. Margarito-Gomez did a pitiful 30k buys. Margarito is on the undercard in his next fight. Do the math...

margarito vs gomez wasn't a real ppv.

it was that indemand ppv ****. that isn't available everywhere.

comparing an indemand ppv event to mayweather's ppv's..now that, is an oxymoron...

Margarito's fight with Lujan is on espn classic just because Lujan's ear got ripped off almost, that there should make him known a good bit to the average fan

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Mosley and Vargas are draws themselves. I think your being unfair BPP, 325,000 with a ****ty undercard, and basically Floyd carrying it himself is a suprise to me. Over 300k to me is legit. Because thats what most legit PPV's do. Him and Gatti helped each other in that PPV, Zab/Floyd was very popular, especially in the hip hop community, but this one, it was mostly floyd. With his style and his demeanor, the fact that it sold this much is decent.

All three of his ppvs have done around the same number. That's my point. The other two cards were way popular and did no better, which says somethintg negative about his selling power. Oscar fought Mayorga and did 900K buys, of course he could do a million with Mayweather.

But, who out there can sell with Mayweather to even get past the 500K mark other than Oscar. Not Hatton, not Cotto (at least not yet), and not Margarito. Mosley may be the only real deal shot, other than Oscar for a high buyrate.

[Guest]

It as by two superstars past their prime, and neither had a major fight in years. ****, Mosley sunk to the point of fighting on ESPN pay-per-views. But, you made my point for me, outside of Oscar, these guys cant sell fights. When Oscar leaves, if 325K is the best a top of hill could do, then it's really looking dim for the sport. It may not even be all Mayweather's fault, as the promoters are killing the sport with them, but they have no choice but to put fights on pay-per-view when a top-rated fighter demands 5-10 million to take a fight.

Even a faded Tyson could sell fights with Danny Williams and Kevin McBride. Oscar is supposedly faded and can still sell. It's about the name(s) involved these days. Not how good they are. Some good fighters don't get enough exposure.

I agree with the second half of your post...

[Guest]

margarito vs gomez wasn't a real ppv.

it was that indemand ppv ****. that isn't available everywhere.

comparing an indemand ppv event to mayweather's ppv's..now that, is an oxymoron...

Margarito's fight with Lujan is on espn classic just because Lujan's ear got ripped off almost, that there should make him known a good bit to the average fan

Calling a Margarito PPV "In Demand" is an oxymoron...