If Mayweather beats Margarito, will you discredit Margarito?

[-EX-]

I think Floyd wants to step in the ring with future hall of famers, and household names.

Hatton, De La Hoya, Mosley, Gatti, Judah(well-known by blacks at least)

I've never heard him mention Williams, Margarito, Cintron, or any other guys coming up.

I think he wants the most money and the most popular fighters. I guess Baldomir was just some stepping stone to fight a well known fighter.

[El Jesus]

You comparing the Baldomier and the Chavez-Whitiker fight to a Mayweather v. Margarito fight is ridicules.

For one, this time unlike Chavez-Whitiker, the pressure fighter is the bigger fighter and it taller. One thing you don't mention is that Whitiker fouled Chavez a million times in this fight to slow him down. Whitiker hit Chavez with a million low blows so many that the Showtime crew stoped commentating on them.

And for you to say Baldomier is comparable to Margarito just tells me how easily you are brainwashed with Hbo's "countdown" show.

If you and many think Mayweather is so untouchable and he doesn't have to prove himself, then Mayweather might as well retire.

You always fallback on that "OH WHITAKER FOULED CHAVEZ SO MANY TIMES" man, you overstate that ****, alot of that was on the belt or borderline, and a fighter like Chavez wouldnt have much leverage in complaining since chavez was knew all the dirty tricks, just like hopkins does. I respect chavez for knowing those tricks, because he was slick and got away with alot of headbutting/lowblowing. Whitaker dominated chavez, period, and if whitaker was doing as much lowblowing/fouling as you say, why WOULDNT he be penalized, as many times as whitaker was robbed and cheated, why wouldnt they cheat him against chavez in a favborable crowd? come on man, your reaching and you know it, JCC got dominated and whitaker should have gotten the win, period.

Baldomir is comparable in terms of the style he attempts to use, Baldomir is Margarito-Lite, Margarito is the better fighter in terms of youth/size, but its not like Margarito is light years ahead in terms of talent/skill. Neither are that great, im not brainwashed by anything, i just know better. And my opinion on the matter is alot more realistic than yours based on the fact that we have seen mayweather in with pressure fighters before and the result is the same, if margarito had been in with ANY B/A class fighter before, then we could assess better what Margarito would do, but since we havent, the edge goes to mayweather based on what we have seen from that style before, which gives me the edge over YOU in this argument.


Thats how betting odds are made in any sport, when we have seen what one side can do against another in similar opposition. If the other side hasnt faced opposition to the calibre of the opponent, than that person is the underdog, Margarito is the underdog, and mayweather is the favorite based on the logic that we have seen mayweather in with guys who fight like margarito before and we have seen him come out on top. Your argument is based more on wishing and hypothetical hoping rather than actual talent/skill/resume.

[wmute]

I belive the only information you have gotten about Margarito wanting to fight Mayweather is what you read here, and seems like you just got here. Cause Margarito made a big offer to Mayweather a few times and all those time Mayweather turned down the offer. So thats were i come to that conclusion. And you were not here when it was announced that Mayweather would challenge Baldomier. Well, let me tell you that 90 percent of this site was all very disappointed and seen a clean shut out for Floyd which is what happened. They mysteriously changed their minds when they got brainwashed or just belived the hype to entertain themselves that Baldomier may have a chance.

You believe very wrong, and I am surprised since we have been arguing over this for months (by we I mean exactly you and me).

the big offer was smaller than waht Floyd made fighting Baldomir

the big offer vanished from the table, the minute pbf-dlh fell through (which is a very surprising fact and should leave you wandering how a succesfull entrepreneur like Bob Arum cannot have access to financial institutions, when he is short of cash at a particular time... bad credit history?? dont make me laugh more than i already did)

I was here when baldomir was announced, I predicetd floyd UD (by less than the landslide it was admittedly), and like many others on this forum, I was not disappointed because Baldomir was the man at 147.

Every evidence that is out thier about a possable Margarito v. Mayweather fight points to the fact that Mayweathers fears Margarito. Other wise then Mayweather would just have picked up a cool 8 million for an easy fight right?

1. 8 millions were in Arum's mouth
2. if you are willing to buy that, you also have to buy floyd's camp and espn saying they made more for Baldomir

If Mayweather retires, he'll be considered a great fighter, but not even close to the greatest fighter. If he does retire, Antonio Margaritos name will come to haunt him in years to come.

I agree that he is not going to be the greatest if he retires

the notion that Margarito name will come to haunt him later is your wishful thinking and rests on Margarito FUTURE performances not on what he has done so far.

You must know more about the Margarito v. Mayweather news before you start pointing fingers at me.

As you can read above I know enough about the news to say what I want

Plain and simple, Floyd Mayweather Jr. is afraid to step into the same ring as Antonio Margarito!

Again this is just your fantasizing or being able to read floyd's mind (if it's the latter, you could be useful in margarito's corner)

[amagnin]

If Floyd beat Margarito like he beat Baldomir I would have to wait and see what happened with his career in the future. Although I favor Mayweather to win, I think this would be an exciting fight...much more so than Baldomir. While Baldomir and Margarito may be similar in that they are big WW's they are different in one major way...Margarito has one-punch KO power while Baldomir was not. Therefore even in a fight that Floyd is dominating there is always the chance of a surprising KO which did not seem possible last Saturday. Back to the topic, my point is that I think Margarito is a pretty good fighter yet I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd dominated him. That being said I don't think that would mean Margarito is washed up unless he let the beating go to his head. I think there will always be a market for a hard hitting puncher that throws a lot of punches, and lets not sell Margarito short he is a good fighter. Listen if he lost to Floyd in a one-sided fashion and then was blown out in his next significant fight like to a Paul Williams then I might reconsider how good I thought Margarito was.

[Easy-E]

Yes, people would discredit Tony and say he was never that good to begin with.

[Easy-E]

You comparing the Baldomier and the Chavez-Whitiker fight to a Mayweather v. Margarito fight is ridicules.

For one, this time unlike Chavez-Whitiker, the pressure fighter is the bigger fighter and it taller. One thing you don't mention is that Whitiker fouled Chavez a million times in this fight to slow him down. Whitiker hit Chavez with a million low blows so many that the Showtime crew stoped commentating on them.

And for you to say Baldomier is comparable to Margarito just tells me how easily you are brainwashed with Hbo's "countdown" show.

If you and many think Mayweather is so untouchable and he doesn't have to prove himself, then Mayweather might as well retire.

Yeah your either retarted or so biased your blind.
Whitaker schooled Chavez, and Baldy has beaten better opponents than Tony.
These are just facts.

[amagnin]

Yes, people would discredit Tony and say he was never that good to begin with.

(No sarcasm) Was the question of the post about what the general public would think if he lost badly or what we would think personally. Because about the public I totally agree with you, but such is boxing. Every time an "unproven" fighter loses he is tossed to the scrap heap. It doesn't matter because if the guy is actually good and has a strong will he can come back...Kermit Cintron.

[El Jesus]

If Floyd beat Margarito like he beat Baldomir I would have to wait and see what happened with his career in the future. Although I favor Mayweather to win, I think this would be an exciting fight...much more so than Baldomir. While Baldomir and Margarito may be similar in that they are big WW's they are different in one major way...Margarito has one-punch KO power while Baldomir was not. Therefore even in a fight that Floyd is dominating there is always the chance of a surprising KO which did not seem possible last Saturday. Back to the topic, my point is that I think Margarito is a pretty good fighter yet I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd dominated him. That being said I don't think that would mean Margarito is washed up unless he let the beating go to his head. I think there will always be a market for a hard hitting puncher that throws a lot of punches, and lets not sell Margarito short he is a good fighter. Listen if he lost to Floyd in a one-sided fashion and then was blown out in his next significant fight like to a Paul Williams then I might reconsider how good I thought Margarito was.

yes your right about one punch KO power, thats the only thing i neglected.

[KingTito]

i wouldn't discredit maragarito. if anything, i'd give more credit to mayweather. but that fight'll never ****ing happen, as much as i want it to.

[cyberthugpatrol]

Alot of people think Margarito would beat Mayweather, I guess the Cintron fight was something more than I can assess, I dunno. If Mayweather destroys him, or does what he did to Baldomir Saturday, will you finally say let's cut the **** and find another big welterweight to ooh and ahh at? Let's try to stay on topic here.

1. not gonna happen, floyd is too scared to face Margarito
2. if it does happen, Margarito destroys floyd
3. sooner or later floyd is gonna run out of contradictory excuses, and she will be exposed for the ***** that she is