My personal thoughts on Mayweather's legacy.

[Kid Achilles]

Mayweather thinks he can pull the wool over our eyes by fighting a few top guys in each division and then moving up, while avoiding meaningful fights. He wants no part of Margarito, the guy we all want to see him fight, and instead wants to chase an old former fighter turned promoter named De La Hoya out of retirement but even there he is bidding himself out of the fight because of his arrogance and delusions of granduer.

Mayweather is suddenly becoming a joke. He has the talent to remove all doubt as to where he stands but would rather tarnish his reputation and pull, as someone said, PR tricks then clear out these divisions. I'd rather a guy prove his mastery over a division before moving up personally.

[El Jesus]

Mayweather thinks he can pull the wool over our eyes by fighting a few top guys in each division and then moving up, while avoiding meaningful fights. He wants no part of Margarito, the guy we all want to see him fight, and instead wants to chase an old former fighter turned promoter named De La Hoya out of retirement but even there he is bidding himself out of the fight because of his arrogance and delusions of granduer.

Mayweather is suddenly becoming a joke. He has the talent to remove all doubt as to where he stands but would rather tarnish his reputation and pull, as someone said, PR tricks then clear out these divisions. I'd rather a guy prove his mastery over a division before moving up personally.

why do you put the blame all on mayweather for cotto/dlh/mosley/hatton not getting in the ring with him? i mean, i agree with alot of what you say, but man none of these guys want him and guys like margarito dont mean a ****ing thing right now

[Kid Achilles]

I honestly think Mayweather is bidding himself out of these fights. He could have had ODLH but wanted too much. If he cares about his legacy so much he could suck up his pride and take the lower share for many of these fights and still make a boatload of money. Guys like Archie Moore took title fights for chump change just so they could get the opportunity.

He needs to change his mentality if he really wants to go out as an all time great.

[El Jesus]

I honestly think Mayweather is bidding himself out of these fights. He could have had ODLH but wanted too much. If he cares about his legacy so much he could suck up his pride and take the lower share for many of these fights and still make a boatload of money. Guys like Archie Moore took title fights for chump change just so they could get the opportunity.

He needs to change his mentality if he really wants to go out as an all time great.

i dont think that at all, hatton asked for 13million and hatton himself confirmed it, DLH situation is DLH situation and as a p4p number 1 fighter, floyd deserves to get ****ing paid on that one, floyd would be involved in the biggest superfight of this generation, why shouldnt he be paid? Mosley decided straight up not to fight him, Cotto situation is obvious, arum wont put him in the ring with him. Im not buying the "priced himself out" other than with Winky Wright, if the baldomir fight, judah fight, gatti fight can happen, so can the others.

I honestly think Mayweather is bidding himself out of these fights. He could have had ODLH but wanted too much. If he cares about his legacy so much he could suck up his pride and take the lower share for many of these fights and still make a boatload of money. Guys like Archie Moore took title fights for chump change just so they could get the opportunity.

He needs to change his mentality if he really wants to go out as an all time great.

When have you heard Hatton say that he wants to fight Mayweather right now? All he ever says is that he needs more tune ups in the US before fighting Mayweather. He is the one not wanting the fight. Look up any interview. He either says he needs more fights or asks for 13 million. Why doesn't someone tell Hatton he should take less money to make the fight happen?

Floyd is the #1 P4P in the sport. These fighters should be lessening their demands to fight him. Not the other way around...

Also, Floyd will never be considered amongst the all-time greats when all is said and done because he is ducked by the best fighters of his era. Not only that, but Floyd doesn't have a single fighter around his divisions that is anywhere near his talent level and in his prime. He can beat Mosley and DLH and people will just say they're faded. Leonard had Duran and Hearns in their prime. Floyd is a victim of his era...

[Kid Achilles]

Also, Floyd will never be considered amongst the all-time greats when all is said and done because he is ducked by the best fighters of his era. Not only that, but Floyd doesn't have a single fighter around his divisions that is anywhere near his talent level and in his prime. He can beat Mosley and DLH and people will just say they're faded. Leonard had Duran and Hearns in their prime. Floyd is a victim of his era...

If that's true it wouldn't be the first time in history that's happened. I could never rank Charley Burley over Robinson simply because he does not have Robinson's resume. Yes, it's unfair that he wasn't allowed to prove himself but you can't just assume he beats all those guys who ducked him. Remember that George Foreman did not even want to fight Joe Frazier, he was afraid of him. Mike Tyson ducked an old George Foreman and admitted to doing so, but perhaps Mike would have beaten him. We can't just say Mayweather automatically beats anyone who doesn't want to fight him, that's just ridiculous.

[VanesBoxing]

I agree with all of you.

Floyd has never really been SHOOK UP or TESTED.

This of course ISN't because he is GOD, its simply because his opposition hasn't been up to his level to give him a true test.

A great fighter is one that can fall and pick himself up, show heart and win, or beat someone against all odds.

Floyd has gone into every fight as a huge favorite and come out with simple victory expected by the fans.

anyone have pics of Floyd after a fight that he is actually hurt a little, bruised, cut??
He always looks like he stepped out of a nightclub after a fight.

Is this alllll because he is so quick and so great?? to a certain degree im sure, but its more likely that the opposition wasnt good enough to hurt him.

[hollister]

i dont think that at all, hatton asked for 13million and hatton himself confirmed it, DLH situation is DLH situation and as a p4p number 1 fighter, floyd deserves to get ****ing paid on that one, floyd would be involved in the biggest superfight of this generation, why shouldnt he be paid? Mosley decided straight up not to fight him, Cotto situation is obvious, arum wont put him in the ring with him. Im not buying the "priced himself out" other than with Winky Wright, if the baldomir fight, judah fight, gatti fight can happen, so can the others.

I think that he just thinks he shouldn't have to fight Margarito, but how many other champs have said when asked who they wanted next "whoever the fans want me to fight"? I don't agree that the Margarito fight means nothing because in boxing it's all about the perceived threat/danger. Floyd may end Antonio's career but until he does or Margarito loses to some bum, he'll continue to be perceived as a possible threat to Mayweather, that's where the term "clean out the division" came from. I also don't agree that Mayweather-DLH would be a superfight, because too many people don't give Floyd a chance of winning it, it's not like Hagler-Hearns where nobody knew who was going to win. I think Mosley hasn't fought him yet because of his relationship with DLH.

[Hisoka]

If that's true it wouldn't be the first time in history that's happened. I could never rank Charley Burley over Robinson simply because he does not have Robinson's resume. Yes, it's unfair that he wasn't allowed to prove himself but you can't just assume he beats all those guys who ducked him. Remember that George Foreman did not even want to fight Joe Frazier, he was afraid of him. Mike Tyson ducked an old George Foreman and admitted to doing so, but perhaps Mike would have beaten him. We can't just say Mayweather automatically beats anyone who doesn't want to fight him, that's just ridiculous.

Can you please reply to what SiN just said about Hatton? What's your explination on this matter since you (as so many others) say that Floyd is always the one bidding himself out?

Thanks

We can't just say Mayweather automatically beats anyone who doesn't want to fight him, that's just ridiculous.

The fact that they choose not to fight him is a win for Mayweather. There really is no bigger fight than Mayweather right now aside from DLH. I can see why people would duck all these no names just looking for a shot, but when you are an established elite fighter like Hatton or Mosley and you elect not to fight this man you are admitting defeat...