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  • Undefeated
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    #41
    Originally posted by Merovingian
    The possibility of this fight happening is next to none. Hatton has no intentions of moving back to 147. If Floyd moves to 154, you can definitely forget about it.
    I could accually see Floyd doing that.. Because if he's going to fight De La Hoya... Then he will do that.. And in order to be the best fighter you gotta go for the best. DLH is old but still could give Floyd a run for his money. And im sure alot of people are thinking the way im thinking.. I also see Floyd trying to make a fight with Shane Mosley.. That would be a good fight.

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    • !! Anorak
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      #42
      Originally posted by boxing2005
      Personally, I would like to see Baldy beat Mayweather and fight Hatton. I think Baldy would be the first fighter who Hatton wouldn't be able to push around. Besides, Baldy is a pretty powerful puncher and would give Hatton a good run for his money. If Baldy beats PBF, I think his fight with Hatton would be huge.

      That said, I think that PBF would beat Hatton by UD. He wouldn't make the same mistake that Tszyu made by letting Hatton fight his fight. If Kostya stayed on the outside, he would have a much better chance to KO or cut Hatton.
      That's true, though Kostya is a more powerful puncher than Floyd.

      RE: Baldomir. I think the appeal of Hatton vs. Mayweather is the imponderables and the variance in styles. If Hatton were to face Baldomir I don't think he could win.

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        #43
        I don't think Hatton would be able to beat Baldy. Baldy would take his shots.. Not sure about body shots.. But Baldy takes damage. Also you can't say the man can't hit. Because Collazo is not known as a puncher and had Hatton lost in the 12th round. As for Baldy alot of people didn't think he could KO Gatti.. Not even me.. I was going nuts... If Hatton were to fight Baldy and they stand toe to toe i think Badly would land this crazy shot that would have Hatton lost prior to his last fight. As for Mayweather... I hope he doesn't exchange punches with Baldy.. Dude has undiscovered power... Just like Corley rocked Mayweather.. You could never say that a fighter with a low KO ratio can't hit.. All it takes is one punch...

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        • !!Captain
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          #44
          Originally posted by scap
          I dont know how powerful a puncher Baldy is he has 12 KO's.
          If he had Judah performing "Chicken Dance v.2" and TKOd Gatti, I'd say he's not a light puncher at all.

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            #45
            Originally posted by boxing2005
            If he had Judah performing "Chicken Dance v.2" and TKOd Gatti, I'd say he's not a light puncher at all.

            This is what i was trying to say... Alot of people go by KO ratio.. All it takes in one punch... Timing also...

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            • vB Martin
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              #46
              I've gone on record here with this for the longest time, so everyone should know I'm not a huge fan of either fighter. In this theoretical matchup, either at 140 or 147, I don't give Hatton a snowball's chance in hell of beating Mayweather.

              I dislike Mayweather for his crap outside the ring. I dislike the way he talks ****, I dislike his thug attitude, I dislike the way he acts as if he's worthy of being called the greatest of all time.
              All that said, his skills are probably the best I have seen in over 30 years of watching this sport, and he may very well be the geatest of all time, though he has a long way to go to prove that, and he has to do it by fighting more than once or twice a year, and he has to do it by facing the absolute best in whatever weight division he settles in, in consecutive fights.
              Of course we will never see this because he wants ridiculous money on the table before he even considers lacing up his gloves.

              Hatton, though he can be exciting to watch, showed that even a moderately skilled mover, such as Collazo, can give him fits. Collazo was the first non-faded boxer he faced and it was a close enough fight to have gone either way. It made, to me, for a more interesting fight than I had ever seen him in before. Without Parris or Vann there to ignore his fouling stlye he exposed himself in a minor way.

              Floyd walks all over Hatton, regardless of the weight division. I think it would be a one-sided fight almost on par with Wright-Trinidad. Floyd would be constantly moving and demolishing Hatton with handspeed and footspeed.

              Floyd by easy UD.
              Last edited by vB Martin; 10-28-2006, 02:55 PM.

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              • K-DOGG
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                #47
                Well, honestly, my view on this fight has changed a little since Hatton's last appearance. At 147, Ricky just doesn't seem to have the same strentgh he did at 140, at least not in his one and only appearance; and maybe that was because it was his first time fighting north of Jr. Welter.

                Is Mayweather overated? I'll concede it's possible because of his competittion since leaving lightweight. Arturo Gatti, I've felt, has been past his best for years and not just in light of the aftermath of the Mayweather fight. I knew it was going to be that kind of a beating going in. Also, I've felt Zab Judah was highly overrated ever since Kostya clocked him in two rounds several years ago. Judah had excellent speed and good power; but his technique is like some school yard kid who's full of more **** than stock.....meaning he talking more than his skill could back up. So, Mayweather beating him didn't sureprise me, nor did Judah's early round success. The more professional fighter pulled it out as I thought he would.

                Now, between Hatton and Mayweather, we'll have to decide a weight limit. If we're going to keep the boys at 147, then I favour Mayweather; but at 140, provided Ricky can regain his former form, I'd say it's a toss up, but would give Mayweather a slight edge. How Mayweather performs against Baldomir will give us a better idea of his strength at 147. If Floyd handles Baldomir as easily as some think he will, then you can bet that he'd do the same to Hatton. However, if Floyd has as much trouble with Tata as I think he will, Hatton's chances look a little better. Still, Hatton hasn't proven real strength at welterweight, so there is still that problem.

                Well, enogh hee-hawing, here's my prediction: At 147, Mayweather my either UD or late round stoppage on cuts. At 140, Hatton by SD.

                There. I will admit I'm still waiting to see how Hatton does in his first post-Collazo fight because Hatton is the type of fighter who ages rather quickly; and he's had several fights under his belt, so he may already be on the slide.

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                • Smashing
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                  #48
                  Hatton will be on high alert and his game will raise relative to the quality of his opponent.
                  We all saw Castillo 1 and this will be Hattons blueprint.He'll take advantage where Castillo couldn't pull it off.
                  Hattons relentless pressure and output, being to much for PBF....
                  Hatton by TKO at either weight.

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                  • Derranged
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by deliveryman
                    I'd take:

                    Baldomir
                    Judah
                    Mitchell
                    Gatti

                    over

                    Urango
                    Collazo
                    Maussa
                    Tsyzu

                    Hatton's entire name is based soley on his victory of Kostya.

                    Collazo isn't even that good, Hatton just made him look that way.

                    It's also funny how you described Carlos Maussa as "unique," instead you really should of used "absolute ****."

                    Comparing their last four opponents, might seem a bit even, but that's only because KT holds a lot of weight. However, if you compare the last three:

                    Baldomir, Judah, Mitchell vs Urango, Collazo, Maussa

                    ... Well that's not even comparable.
                    Hold on.... maybe I miss-read. Gatti over Kostya and Collazo??? NO. Sorry.

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                    • TheEvilSaint
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                      #50
                      at 140, hatton wins.
                      at 147, mayweather wins.

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