Serious discussion thread for Mayweather-Hatton...

[deliveryman]

I'd take:

Baldomir
Judah
Mitchell
Gatti

over

Urango
Collazo
Maussa
Tsyzu

Hatton's entire name is based soley on his victory of Kostya.

Collazo isn't even that good, Hatton just made him look that way.

It's also funny how you described Carlos Maussa as "unique," instead you really should of used "absolute ****."

Comparing their last four opponents, might seem a bit even, but that's only because KT holds a lot of weight. However, if you compare the last three:

Baldomir, Judah, Mitchell vs Urango, Collazo, Maussa

... Well that's not even comparable.

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Castillo has been failing to make the 135 pound weight for at least 5 years now, I have read credible reports that he was at least 5 pounds over the limit when he fought Cesdar Bezan back in 2001. So this weight adavantage that you point to as a way to dismiss Castillo is really not the weight advantage you think it is. Ask Corrales what he thinks of JL at 140?

To suggest that Hatton walks thru Castillo is ridiculous, can Hatton win, yeah-would he be the favorite, yeah he probably would... but to assume that he walks through arguably the toughest fighter in the sport...I just dont see how you can come to that conclusion.

Ricky is not a big puncher at any weight and that includes 140, he also is tailor made for Castillo type in fighting, walk thru JL Castillo...wanna bet!

Castillo not being able to make weight means nothing as far as being able to fight at a higher weight. Just ask Erik Morales about his first bout at 135. Baldomir walks around at 180 or even more, does that make him a good middlweight if he cuts down to 160?

Castillo is tailor made for Hatton, not the other way around. Hatton punches harder than Corrales. It's going to be a dog fight at close range and I don't see Castillo being able to push Hatton back.

[iron mike tyson]

the only way mayweather is gonna win on points and the only way hattons gonna win is via tko or ko
is it out the question for both fighters to win? hell no but im sure 90% of this forum will disagrea
for hatton to win hes gonna have to take mayweather wheres hes never been before and thats an all out war on the ropes
which isnt outta the question because hatton is one opf the best at cutting the ring off and has got arguable the best stamina in the game today.
for mayweather to win hes gonna have to keep hatton on the outside which is gonna be easier said than done but for some1 with the skills of floyd it aint outta the question

[Welter_Skelter]

Anorak .. You make the good point in that their styles are POLAR opposites.. so you have to break down both fighters strenghts and weaknesses and disect it from there ..
Both fighters have never LOST so confidence SHOULD be a Strenght for both.. BUT Hattons recent division backstep and his QUOTE about needing a few fights before facing Mayweather would give THAT advantage to FLOYD..
MAyweather is the superior boxer skillwise.. Hatton is fast.. FM is faster.. I think Hatton is stronger and has a better chin(I dont think FLOYD could have taken too many of Tszyu's right hands and lived to talk about it.).
Floyd is an accurate and economical puncher.. Hatton is a whirlwind who is probaly P4P the most sickening body puncher.. Floyd is hard to hit in the head.. but more easy to hit in the body...SO I would imagine Hatton not being able to see by fights end.. and Floyd spitting up blood.. this is of course if Ricky can stay on top of floyd and NOT give him any room..ANd this is where the difference comes in... Hatton HAS good ring smarts is methodical and never panics.. Mayweather has MORE ring smarts is methodical and never panics.. But that ring smat difference is the ice breaker.. Hatton has a plan.. PBF is reactionary and can adjust like NO ONE I have ever seen.. hatton has also shown a weakness to counter punches.. FLOYDs counter puching skills are legend.. Hatton has meanness about him in the ring I have never seen in PBF .. what I mean is HAtton actually seems to enjoy HURTING people(watch the Ray Oliveria fight for a great example) at the end of the day.. I think Floyd has the BOXING advantage and Hatton has the intangibles advantage.. and history has taught me.. to almost always go for the BOXER over the PUNCHER.. although Hatton is not just a brawler he is still more a brawler than BOXER.. I would predict a Floyd Mayweather victory..

[deliveryman]

the only way mayweather is gonna win on points and the only way hattons gonna win is via tko or ko
is it out the question for both fighters to win? hell no but im sure 90% of this forum will disagrea
for hatton to win hes gonna have to take mayweather wheres hes never been before and thats an all out war on the ropes
which isnt outta the question because hatton is one opf the best at cutting the ring off and has got arguable the best stamina in the game today.
for mayweather to win hes gonna have to keep hatton on the outside which is gonna be easier said than done but for some1 with the skills of floyd it aint outta the question

I'm sorry did you just say Hatton was one of the best at cutting off the ring?

[medium-deek]

Castillo is tailor made for Hatton, not the other way around. Hatton punches harder than Corrales. It's going to be a dog fight at close range and I don't see Castillo being able to push Hatton back.

I certainly hope that the bookies in the UK hold the opposite view. I will put some good money on Hatton, if Castillo is made odds on favourite. Its a sure winner.

[iron mike tyson]

I'd take:

Baldomir
Judah
Mitchell
Gatti

over

Urango
Collazo
Maussa
Tsyzu

Hatton's entire name is based soley on his victory of Kostya.

Collazo isn't even that good, Hatton just made him look that way.

It's also funny how you described Carlos Maussa as "unique," instead you really should of used "absolute ****."

Comparing their last four opponents, might seem a bit even, but that's only because KT holds a lot of weight. However, if you compare the last three:

Baldomir, Judah, Mitchell vs Urango, Collazo, Maussa

... Well that's not even comparable.

if your comparing last 3 opponents shouldnt it be collazo , maussa and tszyu or oliviera
maussa would of destroyed mitchell at 140 and i think collazo would of picked gatti apart similer to the way mayweather did

[deliveryman]

if your comparing last 3 opponents shouldnt it be collazo , maussa and tszyu or oliviera
maussa would of destroyed mitchell at 140 and i think collazo would of picked gatti apart similer to the way mayweather did

Maussa would of destroyed Mitchell at 140? Are you legally ******ed? Please tell me you're joking.

[Guest]

I'd take:

Baldomir
Judah
Mitchell
Gatti

over

Urango
Collazo
Maussa
Tsyzu

Hatton's entire name is based soley on his victory of Kostya.

Collazo isn't even that good, Hatton just made him look that way.

It's also funny how you described Carlos Maussa as "unique," instead you really should of used "absolute ****."

Comparing their last four opponents, might seem a bit even, but that's only because KT holds a lot of weight. However, if you compare the last three:

Baldomir, Judah, Mitchell vs Urango, Collazo, Maussa

... Well that's not even comparable.

See, I think it is. Baldomir is just a journeyman that Floyd is EXPECTED to beat quite handily (though I like Carlos), Mitchell was shot and Judah has always been overrated IMO. Personal taste, obviously. But neither Mitchell or Judah really pressed Floyd particularly... I'm not really talking about whether they're "tough" opponents in theory, more in practise. Floyd had a (relatively) easy time of it with Judah, so it's not keeping him sharp if you see what I mean.

As for Maussa, apart from the fact that he's hilarious, I still consider him relatively dangerous. Not only can he crack, but he also has one of the best chins I've seen in current boxing and is as dirty as Hell to boot. He's no Muhammad Ali, but he's dangerous IMO.

[Guest]

Maussa would of destroyed Mitchell at 140? Are you legally ******ed? Please tell me you're joking.

Come on man, I appreciate your input into the thread, but like I said at the start, let's leave the name calling to another thread, eh?