Serious discussion thread for Mayweather-Hatton...

[Guest]

hatton would have to make it an inside brawl to have a chance against mayweather.i can see hatton holding and headbutting and backing up boyfloyd and making him look bad with the help from a britt ref.over there he could win a contraverserial sd with the help of mayweather blowing it in later rounds.i think hattons one of the smartest boxers out there and knows he's going to have to make it a dirty fight to win. boyfloyds power is questionable to me. but my money will be on floyd.

Come on man, don't bring the race issue up, I asked not for this kind of talk. Let's talk about BOXING, not "brit refs" and all the rest of it. I remember Floyd getting in a cheapie against Gatti in the first round, so he's not innocent (though of course I acknowledge that Hatton is far more lenient with his obeying of the rules).

I mean, it's a given that the fight WON'T be in England, so why the need to bring that up in the first place??? And when has Hatton ever headbutted anyone?

[scap]

Ricky shold fight Floyd at 147, not 140.

Ricky should fight anyone else back at 140.

Floyd is probably his quickest at 135-140...the higher you go the slower he may get...just a thoery here but in my opinion Hatton has size disadvantages against many of teh 147 pound fighter today and Floyd is not one of them therefore 147 may be the right weight for this fight and only this fight.

Just a thought.

[majestiC]

I honestly don't believe Hattons has to make it a dirty fight, what the hell is this about needing help from a British ref. Fighting on the inside is part of boxing it doesnt matter where you are some refs allow it more than others, just look at Castillo v Corrales. Hatton is usually one of the most prepared fighters there is before a match, he almost always has a game plan and sticks to it, however against Callazo that went out the window. I don't buy the theory that Hatton was slow because of the extra 7lbs of weight he put on his legs. Hatton had a game plan before that match and didn't stick to it and for that he looked slow and sluggish. People say he only had 6 weeks to prepare for the fight, thats way long enough for a boxing fight.

Hatton will have to use educated pressure by cutting down the ring and attacking at the right times. Hatton isn't a dirty fighter he gives what he takes. He had the right game plan vs Kostya by keeping his right arm at bay, against Maussa he will make anyone look like they can't box. Collazo he had a game plan and it worked great in the first couple of rounds then he got drew out of it and ended up holding to much.

[El Jesus]

Mayweather is open to the left over the top, thats where i think Hatton can exploit him if they ever meet. Billy Graham pointed this out, hes 100% certain Hatton will beat him, looks like were gonna have to wait till end of 2007 for this fight which is a complete sham and the promoters of the sport should be ashamed of them selves. I used to be a very big fan of Hatton but if he fights only once/twice next year I won't be buying any more PPV's from him. Hattons got the money to retire now and I got a feeling complecency is creeping in, no matter what he says about wanting to be "P4P 1". One fight in a year is ridiculous, what ever you say about Frank Warren is atleast he kept him active.

Both fighters are to money oriented, they both could retire and have fantastic lives with the money they've got but they both still argue about who should get this and who should get that. I would'nt want to pick a winner until i've seen Ricky fight Urango and see if hes back to his exciting best, for some reason I can't see this happening im pretty sure hes going to be ring rusty.

If the pair do ever fight I think Mayweather will have his toughest fight, Hatton is great at cutting the ring down and is a intelligent fighter so I don't think Mayweather will be able to box from the outside the whole fight. People say Mayweather will do what he did to Gatti, Gatti was unprepared for that match and what was he thinking trying to out box him, he even ask Hatton what to do the day before they fought.

I would like to see how many PPV sales Mayweather gets vs Baldomir, even if he is the best out there some of the money hes asking for each fight is silly considering he ain't the most popular guy in the world.

Mayweather isnt easily open to any punches hatton throws, the reason why i can say this is because ive seen mayweathers gameplan change fight to fight every time. Even if mayweather is open to this "lefthand over the top" hatton is open to everything else, so it cancels out.

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I honestly don't believe Hattons has to make it a dirty fight, what the hell is this about needing help from a British ref. Fighting on the inside is part of boxing it doesnt matter where you are some refs allow it more than others, just look at Castillo v Corrales. Hatton is usually one of the most prepared fighters there is before a match, he almost always has a game plan and sticks to it, however against Callazo that went out the window. I don't buy the theory that Hatton was slow because of the extra 7lbs of weight he put on his legs. Hatton had a game plan before that match and didn't stick to it and for that he looked slow and sluggish. People say he only had 6 weeks to prepare for the fight, thats way long enough for a boxing fight.

Hatton will have to use educated pressure by cutting down the ring and attacking at the right times. Hatton isn't a dirty fighter he gives what he takes. He had the right game plan vs Kostya by keeping his right arm at bay, against Maussa he will make anyone look like they can't box. Collazo he had a game plan and it worked great in the first couple of rounds then he got drew out of it and ended up holding to much.

Hatton has got to make it ugly and dirty in my mind to win.

Hell at times against Collazo Ricky had trouble getting off when he gave even the slightest bit of distance.

If you have trouble getting off at time against Collazo you may never get off against Floyd.

Ricky cannot let Floyd breath, which is why I give him a real shot in this fight because what Ricky does best is not let his opponent breath applying pressure pressure and more ****ing pressure.

Any space in between the two and it will get ugly realy quick this is just a fact when facing a guy like Floyd Mayweather.

[Undefeated]

I initially thought that Hatton lost the fight, but watching it again I could see the win on the cards.

How did you score it? Bear in mind all Hatton had to do to win was take half the rounds with the KD in the first.

Collazo was a naturally bigger man who fought from the southpaw position. Floyd and Castillo are smaller men than Hatton and fight from an orthodox position (though Floyd can switch). Let's not also forget that it was Hatton's first fight at a new weight. I'm not saying that he would be effective at 147 if he got used to it, but I'd like to see more than one fight before jumping to conclusions.

I had Collazo winning but not by much.. But i remember two judge's scored the fight 115-112.. The fight was much closer than that.. I had the fight pretty close i think i had it 114-113 for Collazo I would give you the score by rounds but i need to watch it again to see which rounds i gave who.. But i remember i had scored like that... Yea but it was the KD in the first that gave the fight away.. If you think about it.. Collazo still would have lose even if he didn't get dropped in the 1st.

[Ta Khent]

The possibility of this fight happening is next to none. Hatton has no intentions of moving back to 147. If Floyd moves to 154, you can definitely forget about it.

[!!Captain]

Personally, I would like to see Baldy beat Mayweather and fight Hatton. I think Baldy would be the first fighter who Hatton wouldn't be able to push around. Besides, Baldy is a pretty powerful puncher and would give Hatton a good run for his money. If Baldy beats PBF, I think his fight with Hatton would be huge.

That said, I think that PBF would beat Hatton by UD. He wouldn't make the same mistake that Tszyu made by letting Hatton fight his fight. If Kostya stayed on the outside, he would have a much better chance to KO or cut Hatton.

[Guest]

I had Collazo winning but not by much.. But i remember two judge's scored the fight 115-112.. The fight was much closer than that.. I had the fight pretty close i think i had it 114-113 for Collazo I would give you the score by rounds but i need to watch it again to see which rounds i gave who.. But i remember i had scored like that... Yea but it was the KD in the first that gave the fight away.. If you think about it.. Collazo still would have lose even if he didn't get dropped in the 1st.

Yeah, by the judge's cards it would have been a MD for Hatton, that's true. But I mean in terms of us judging it ourselves as fans of the sport.

How many times have you seen the fight? When I came to watch it again I was surprised at how long it took Collazo to get into the fight - my memory of that was taken away by the end where he was largely dominant. But he didn't really start taking any rounds or getting his workrate going (IMO, obviously) until the fifth. So he's entering the fifth round and he's already five points down.

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I dont know how powerful a puncher Baldy is he has 12 KO's.