Chavez and DLH

[Roberto_Roldan_]

De La Hoya, he was just too big and too fast for Chavez. There are some styles and fighters that certain guys can't compete with, and DLH has Chavez' number above 135. Under that weight, Chavez would give him a rough fight, like John John Molina, but at DLH's weight its a no contest.

Ya i keep on telling myself that Chavez could have beat him but deep inside i know ODLH has his number.

[Abe Attell]

De La Hoya is who he is, maybe media hype is a little harsh. The truth is that people said he was Ray Leonard, but he wasn't. The HBO people would have you believe he was the greatest fighter who ever lived, but he was only on par with Quartey, Whitaker, and the rest of the guys who were supposed to be his defining fights. He had his chance to be immortal, but he came just short of that no matter the decisions in his fights.

I love Ray, but ****, have you seen the Beaver Oscar has gotten, plus his beautiful wife and his bank account make up for everything...Oscar is also successful as a Promoter, Ray is not.

Oscar was able to live the life and come out pretty dam well.


I would rather be Oscar than Hopkins, I don't think I need to say why

[+= El Jefe=+]

I love Ray, but ****, have you seen the Beaver Oscar has gotten, plus his beautiful wife and his bank account make up for everything...Oscar is also successful as a Promoter, Ray is not.

Oscar was able to live the life and come out pretty dam well.


I would rather be Oscar than Hopkins, I don't think I need to say why

Have you seen Meet The Bakers.... its a reality show wiht the guy from blink 182, i never watched it but his wife is an ex playmate, and ex-miss united states, well DLH hit that and her oldest daugher is DLH daughter......

[Abe Attell]

so I heard........didn't she knock a few people out herself, at least that is what was reported

[+= El Jefe=+]

so I heard........didn't she knock a few people out herself, at least that is what was reported

Paris Hilton got a right from her hahahahaha , i wonder if she also punched DLH??

[ferocity]

Chavez was a stalker, a guy who was only effective in forward momentum. He had great finishing ability, he worked the head and body brilliantly and simultaneously. His problems came when he had guys who moved and gave him angles, like Taylor and De La Hoya.

De La Hoya was a failed media hype to become he next Ray Leonard. DLH is a great fighter, but he didn't live up to the highest expectations of him. His main downfall was that he can't use his right hand really. If you nullify his hook, like Mosley and Whitaker did, he's a very basic fighter. He isn;t the finisher Chavez is because of his dependancy on his left hook. Look at the Quartey fight, he didn't stop him cuz he doesn't go head and body.

Have you seen Chavez fights?

Have you seen Delahoya fights?


Chavez could box and was effective when he wanted too.


Delahoya was one hell of a finisher, just ask anybody who seen him from his first fight and on.


Unless you're trying to put then down, you got to study up, i know you're younger then i'am so you seen less of these guys in the ring.


edit;
As for Delahoya being the next Ray Leonard, theres only ONE, Oscar Delahoya.

And about his right hand, too many trainer ****ed with Delahoyas style that he never came into his own, just like Danny Romero, except Romeros problem was he wasn't sure if he wanted to out box his opponet or knock them out.

[ferocity]

You can call Oscar a lot of things but a "failed media hype?"

Was he the fighter Ray Leonard was...no but who is? He held titles in 6 seperate weight classes...I promise you when he made his debut on USA Tuesday night fights had they of said he would be a 6 weight champ it would have been considered a huge success.

Sure there are some dissappointments, and I know what people say when they say he didnt live up to everything but all n all he was a helluva a fighter that really in all actuality lived up to everything he was made out to be.

Media hypes dont fight John John Molina in there 17th pro fights...very early on in his career Oscar proved to be every bit the goods...was he too ambitious for his talent...you can certainly make that claim but to call him a media creation is just not being fair, hell its not being accurate either.

Good post.

[Mr. Ryan]

Have you seen Chavez fights?

Have you seen Delahoya fights?


Chavez could box and was effective when he wanted too.


Delahoya was one hell of a finisher, just ask anybody who seen him from his first fight and on.


Unless you're trying to put then down, you got to study up, i know you're younger then i'am so you seen less of these guys in the ring.


edit;
As for Delahoya being the next Ray Leonard, theres only ONE, Oscar Delahoya.

And about his right hand, too many trainer ****ed with Delahoyas style that he never came into his own, just like Danny Romero, except Romeros problem was he wasn't sure if he wanted to out box his opponet or knock them out.

No, I haven't seen anyone fight. I just make up things that possess internal harmony with the actuality of things. Only Ferocity has seen anyone fight cuz he was ALWAYS there.

[ferocity]

No, I haven't seen anyone fight. I just make up things that possess internal harmony with the actuality of things. Only Ferocity has seen anyone fight cuz he was ALWAYS there.

Differnce between you and me is i study the fights of these guys. I've seen Chavez box guys, no not like Pernal Whitiker.

Delahoya was one hell of a finisher, if you don't think so then you're ignorant.


And Delahoya like you boy Pacquiao, used to come into the ring smilling, not giving a damn that he has a fight coming up in a few seconds. People got on his case for smilliing coming into the ring, - not being professional and so on. Well one day Delahoya stops smilling while coming into the ring. Of, Course you aint going to learn this from watching old Delaoya videos, cause you would also have to be awar of the news that was reported.

You got to study up some more. Delahoya not being a finisher and he had other tools besides his right hand.


And if a past his prime Chavez can take Delahoya shots and force him to take a step back, Delahoya would have no easy time taking a 12 round assault, i don't think either would get ko'd, but i'd favor Chavez.

[joeytrimble]

delahoya stops chaves even earlier prime for prime ... the rest of the class can thank this ignorant ****k for it after words ...