Chavez and DLH

[+= El Jefe=+]

compare and contrast how are they different how are they alike.......

[cazarez]

There Styles R Like Black And White

[Roberto_Roldan_]

i dont see how can the be similar other than them being mexicans. Both have good left hooks.

[Mr. Ryan]

Chavez was a stalker, a guy who was only effective in forward momentum. He had great finishing ability, he worked the head and body brilliantly and simultaneously. His problems came when he had guys who moved and gave him angles, like Taylor and De La Hoya.

De La Hoya was a failed media hype to become he next Ray Leonard. DLH is a great fighter, but he didn't live up to the highest expectations of him. His main downfall was that he can't use his right hand really. If you nullify his hook, like Mosley and Whitaker did, he's a very basic fighter. He isn;t the finisher Chavez is because of his dependancy on his left hook. Look at the Quartey fight, he didn't stop him cuz he doesn't go head and body.

[Roberto_Roldan_]

Chavez was a stalker, a guy who was only effective in forward momentum. He had great finishing ability, he worked the head and body brilliantly and simultaneously. His problems came when he had guys who moved and gave him angles, like Taylor and De La Hoya.

De La Hoya was a failed media hype to become he next Ray Leonard. DLH is a great fighter, but he didn't live up to the highest expectations of him. His main downfall was that he can't use his right hand really. If you nullify his hook, like Mosley and Whitaker did, he's a very basic fighter. He isn;t the finisher Chavez is because of his dependancy on his left hook. Look at the Quartey fight, he didn't stop him cuz he doesn't go head and body.

nice post what do u personaly think would have happened if chavez and DLH met when chavez was in his prime?

[Abe Attell]

Oscar would of still won


Chavez wasn't in his prime against Oscar and Tszyu, but they are also the only two to beat him sensless and knock him out...they are just to big and strong for him...Chavez was better at the lighter weights, but he was no Duran.

[+= El Jefe=+]

i dont see how can the be similar other than them being mexicans. Both have good left hooks.

There Styles R Like Black And White

i mean accomlishments, and competition

[scap]

Chavez was a stalker, a guy who was only effective in forward momentum. He had great finishing ability, he worked the head and body brilliantly and simultaneously. His problems came when he had guys who moved and gave him angles, like Taylor and De La Hoya.

De La Hoya was a failed media hype to become he next Ray Leonard. DLH is a great fighter, but he didn't live up to the highest expectations of him. His main downfall was that he can't use his right hand really. If you nullify his hook, like Mosley and Whitaker did, he's a very basic fighter. He isn;t the finisher Chavez is because of his dependancy on his left hook. Look at the Quartey fight, he didn't stop him cuz he doesn't go head and body.

You can call Oscar a lot of things but a "failed media hype?"

Was he the fighter Ray Leonard was...no but who is? He held titles in 6 seperate weight classes...I promise you when he made his debut on USA Tuesday night fights had they of said he would be a 6 weight champ it would have been considered a huge success.

Sure there are some dissappointments, and I know what people say when they say he didnt live up to everything but all n all he was a helluva a fighter that really in all actuality lived up to everything he was made out to be.

Media hypes dont fight John John Molina in there 17th pro fights...very early on in his career Oscar proved to be every bit the goods...was he too ambitious for his talent...you can certainly make that claim but to call him a media creation is just not being fair, hell its not being accurate either.

[Mr. Ryan]

nice post what do u personaly think would have happened if chavez and DLH met when chavez was in his prime?

De La Hoya, he was just too big and too fast for Chavez. There are some styles and fighters that certain guys can't compete with, and DLH has Chavez' number above 135. Under that weight, Chavez would give him a rough fight, like John John Molina, but at DLH's weight its a no contest.

[Mr. Ryan]

You can call Oscar a lot of things but a "failed media hype?"

Was he the fighter Ray Leonard was...no but who is? He held titles in 6 seperate weight classes...I promise you when he made his debut on USA Tuesday night fights had they of said he would be a 6 weight champ it would have been considered a huge success.

Sure there are some dissappointments, and I know what people say when they say he didnt live up to everything but all n all he was a helluva a fighter that really in all actuality lived up to everything he was made out to be.

Media hypes dont fight John John Molina in there 17th pro fights...very early on in his career Oscar proved to be every bit the goods...was he too ambitious for his talent...you can certainly make that claim but to call him a media creation is just not being fair, hell its not being accurate either.

De La Hoya is who he is, maybe media hype is a little harsh. The truth is that people said he was Ray Leonard, but he wasn't. The HBO people would have you believe he was the greatest fighter who ever lived, but he was only on par with Quartey, Whitaker, and the rest of the guys who were supposed to be his defining fights. He had his chance to be immortal, but he came just short of that no matter the decisions in his fights.