Final Poll - Abraham vs Miranda - Who Won?

[Dirt E Gomez]

You are probably the biggest loser on this board. Even the biggest of Abraham fans (you know who you are) at least agree it was a shady night and a rematch is called for. But you are trying to make it out that Abraham is some ****in super human freak of nature that dominated every second of the fight. Ok buddy, sure, whatever... Your posts are laughed at by many and ignored by the rest.

How was it shady? The referee might've been a moron but that doesn't make it shady. I'm not trying to make the fight out to be anything it wasn't. It was one sided the first 5-6 rounds and to suggest otherwise makes you a blind fool. I'd love to see a rematch because it would be a 1 sided slaugther that hopefuly wont involve any intentional headbutts.

And if anyone's posts are a joke its yours. I don't even like Abraham or Miranda. I think they're both mediocre fighters who were hyped entirely too high. Anybody with an untainted view of the fight can see it for what it truly was.

I will gladly wait for a rematch since the bodies want to keep Miranda at #1 and look forward to seeing Miranda thuroughly outclassed. Also... didn't you have a bet with somebody that you wouldn't show up if Miranda lost? How's that working out for you?

[Pantera2000]

How was it shady? The referee might've been a moron but that doesn't make it shady. I'm not trying to make the fight out to be anything it wasn't. It was one sided the first 5-6 rounds and to suggest otherwise makes you a blind fool. I'd love to see a rematch because it would be a 1 sided slaugther that hopefuly wont involve any intentional headbutts.

And if anyone's posts are a joke its yours. I don't even like Abraham or Miranda. I think they're both mediocre fighters who were hyped entirely too high. Anybody with an untainted view of the fight can see it for what it truly was.

I will gladly wait for a rematch since the bodies want to keep Miranda at #1 and look forward to seeing Miranda thuroughly outclassed. Also... didn't you have a bet with somebody that you wouldn't show up if Miranda lost? How's that working out for you?

Never made that bet. The one who did isn't around to talk about it!
Yea, whatever dude, sure the first 5-6 rounds were one sided. Somehow your opinion of this is so far off from the people who matter.
Maybe you are watching the fight on one of those old green tube screens??

[bishop2006]

Never made that bet. The one who did isn't around to talk about it!
Yea, whatever dude, sure the first 5-6 rounds were one sided. Somehow your opinion of this is so far off from the people who matter.
Maybe you are watching the fight on one of those old green tube screens??

If anyones a loser its u,u keep crying about it,i dont see how u could have Miranda winning the fight,Abraham won,get over it,plus with 5 a points loss,theres !NO WAY! Miranda won seeing how he was getting outboxed in the earlier rounds

[Pantera2000]

If anyones a loser its u,u keep crying about it,i dont see how u could have Miranda winning the fight,Abraham won,get over it,plus with 5 a points loss,theres !NO WAY! Miranda won seeing how he was getting outboxed in the earlier rounds

Ignore what I say. Tell the IBF, WBO, Ring Mag, Dan Rafael, G Leon and many other sport writers to quit crying about. Somehow they had Miranda winning too.

[RAESAAD]

Did people start voting with their alts or something.......The poll has suddenly gone a bit the other way.........

[Guest]

This should have been a public poll.

Again, for the benefit of the debate I'll repeat: all Abraham had to do was win FOUR ROUNDS to win the fight with the point deductions.

[Pantera2000]

This should have been a public poll.

Again, for the benefit of the debate I'll repeat: all Abraham had to do was win FOUR ROUNDS to win the fight with the point deductions.

No one is arguing the facts. The big question is if he won 4 rounds (which is arguable), and if the 5 points were deserved, most say not all of them.

Everyone agrees the fight should have been stopped, but you can't go by that since Sauerland demanded it to continue.

Poll somehow did swing mighty quickly the other way, hmmmmm. But either way it shows that it as pretty damn close to 50/50.

A rematch is in order and has been demanded by the IBF. This will be the only way to settle it once and for all!

[Guest]

I don't see the four rounds being arguable, personally (though maybe I'm a "euronuthugger"? ... and there's me thinking Europe was a massive collective of multiple countries) Abraham clearly hurt Miranda on several occasions.

The five points were, however.

[t_tsuguri]

Because everybody wants an excuse to ***** about corruption in Germany as opposed to actually writing how outclassed Miranda was. The first half of the fight before AA's jaw got ****ed up he was crushing Miranda virtually every round. After that he covered up and tried to stay away... Miranda could not penetrate his guard. In each of the latter rounds Miranda would control the tempo throwing 3x as many punches but AA was still landing the harder cleaner shots each round. I gave the rounds to Miranda simply out of pity practically.

I have just been browsing this thread and to be honest, this might be the most ignorant comment made on this topic. To imply that the U.S has some sort of ulterior motive, maybe even a vendetta, against the German boxing community is absolutley assinine. What could possibly motivate U.S boxing scribes to ignore Abraham's performance and instead write a dirt job about Germany? How would this benefit the American boxing community at large? Exactly what is at stake? In my opinion, nothing. Writers wrote what they saw, and they saw a messy fight that should have swung Miranda's way.

N.B I am not commenting on who won, just on what boxing writers wrote

http://www.maxboxing.com/Gerbasi/Gerbasi100106.asp

[Manfredo Jr]

i didnt see the fight , but i had a look at some pics in a boxing magazine , he broke his jaw on the 4th round huh, **** me , he must of went threw some pain.