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  • #51
    Originally posted by THE REAL NINJA
    Anyone can ko anyone at any given time that's just the way it is.
    Not True! Hagler was never knocked down or hurt in 67 fights. The one knocked down was not a knocked down the punch didn't even landed on Hagler.

    I respect Robinson, but no ****ing way he knocks Hagler out or even hurt him.

    Robinson have never fought anyone in the class of Hagler, period!

    Hagler and his last fight against the great Leonard who I think had more skills then Robinson lost a close fight.

    A prime Hagler would've stopped Robinson late!

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    • #52
      Originally posted by versatile2k6
      why do ya'll put hagler so high? all i know that he beat was hearns and duran? maybe i jus need to look at more history
      Hands down the greatest middleweight of all time, during the best era of boxing history.

      If Tyson would've had Haglers balls and chin, Tyson would've been the greatest heavyweight of all time.

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      • #53
        Course the LaMotta comment should be taking with a grain of salt, LaMotta and Hagler were both top ten (in Haglers case an arguable top 5) middleweights, but sometimes the people on this forum piss me off to the point where I have to strike back and belittle their favorites.

        LaMotta was a great great fighter who does have the more impressive wins on his record (I'll take Robinson, Cerdan, and eventual heavyweight contender Bob Satterfield over a frail welterweight Hearns and blown up lightweight Duran), so to say such insulting and ignorant things about a great champion is going to piss me off.

        Hagler was great middleweight champion, possibly more so than LaMotta due to the way he dominated his era once he had the belt (though I'd favor Jake on a head to head matchup on the grounds of superior strength and Jake would have probably dominated as champion for a long time as well, and in a stronger era, had he been able to get a title shot early in his career) but to say it's an insult to mention LaMotta in the same breath of Hagler, wow.

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        • #54
          Robinson could score a TKO against Hagler late in the fighgt. Never a full blown KO though.

          Course the LaMotta comment should be taking with a grain of salt, LaMotta and Hagler were both top ten (in Haglers case an arguable top 5) middleweights, but sometimes the people on this forum piss me off to the point where I have to strike back and belittle their favorites.

          LaMotta was a great great fighter who does have the more impressive wins on his record (I'll take Robinson, Cerdan, and eventual heavyweight contender Bob Satterfield over a frail welterweight Hearns and blown up lightweight Duran), so to say such insulting and ignorant things about a great champion is going to piss me off.

          Hagler was great middleweight champion, possibly more so than LaMotta due to the way he dominated his era once he had the belt (though I'd favor Jake on a head to head matchup on the grounds of superior strength and Jake would have probably dominated as champion for a long time as well, and in a stronger era, had he been able to get a title shot early in his career) but to say it's an insult to mention LaMotta in the same breath of Hagler, wow.
          Agreed.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by PBF34
            No way.
            Hagler would KO SRR before SRR KO'd Hagler.

            if you mena sugar ray robinson you are dead wrong, he is almost certainly, p4p the best boxer ever!

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            • #56
              Originally posted by hemichromis
              if you mena sugar ray robinson you are dead wrong, he is almost certainly, p4p the best boxer ever!
              I rank Robinson #1 of all time, but that doesn't mean **** about knocking Hagler out, hell no ****ing way Robinson ever stops Hagler.

              Anyone gets stops in this fantasy match it will be Robinson, not Hagler.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                Course the LaMotta comment should be taking with a grain of salt, LaMotta and Hagler were both top ten (in Haglers case an arguable top 5) middleweights, but sometimes the people on this forum piss me off to the point where I have to strike back and belittle their favorites.

                LaMotta was a great great fighter who does have the more impressive wins on his record (I'll take Robinson, Cerdan, and eventual heavyweight contender Bob Satterfield over a frail welterweight Hearns and blown up lightweight Duran), so to say such insulting and ignorant things about a great champion is going to piss me off.

                Hagler was great middleweight champion, possibly more so than LaMotta due to the way he dominated his era once he had the belt (though I'd favor Jake on a head to head matchup on the grounds of superior strength and Jake would have probably dominated as champion for a long time as well, and in a stronger era, had he been able to get a title shot early in his career) but to say it's an insult to mention LaMotta in the same breath of Hagler, wow.
                I've met Lamotta and I like the guy, but no ****ing way you can compare him to Hagler, unless your on crack.

                Hagler is a bad match up for Lamotta, Hagler wins this by TKO every single time.

                Stay away from the crack kid if you think Lamotta had more power then Hagler.

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                • #58
                  Hitting power is close, but LaMotta is much physically stronger. We're comparing a guy who walked around at 180-190 and actually fought heavyweights during his career to a guy who just barely beat an over the hill, smaller Duran.

                  If Hagler was as strong as you make him out to be, he would have dominated the naturally much smaller Duran as Hearns did.

                  Hagler was a great fighter with one of the greatest chins of all time but his hitting power and strength for a middleweight were merely good, but not overwhelming.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                    Hitting power is close, but LaMotta is much physically stronger. We're comparing a guy who walked around at 180-190 and actually fought heavyweights during his career to a guy who just barely beat an over the hill, smaller Duran.

                    If Hagler was as strong as you make him out to be, he would have dominated the naturally much smaller Duran as Hearns did.

                    Hagler was a great fighter with one of the greatest chins of all time but his hitting power and strength for a middleweight were merely good, but not overwhelming.

                    Hearns beating Duran had nothing to do with his strength, and more to do with his speed, reach, height, and style.
                    Hagler looked the stronger of the two wen he KO'd Hearns.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                      Hitting power is close, but LaMotta is much physically stronger. We're comparing a guy who walked around at 180-190 and actually fought heavyweights during his career to a guy who just barely beat an over the hill, smaller Duran.

                      If Hagler was as strong as you make him out to be, he would have dominated the naturally much smaller Duran as Hearns did.

                      Hagler was a great fighter with one of the greatest chins of all time but his hitting power and strength for a middleweight were merely good, but not overwhelming.
                      Hagler hit harder and was physically stronger then Lamotta. Get real!

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