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  • Mattyp151
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    #71
    Originally posted by Cletus Funk
    Where do I start?

    When Hatton's walking around at 180 he's carrying 40lbs of fat so that has no relevance what so ever.

    If you're happy with what a fighter did 4+ years ago then good luck to you. I guess RJJ is still p4p king then?

    You've obviously got an unhealthy obsession with Hatton because I've never seen even his most avid fans mention his WBU defenses as evidence of his accomplishments or standing.

    The Tsyzu that Hatton fought is still > anyone on Floyd's resume. Everyone except the people that knew what was Hatton was about picked Tszyu to win within 6 rounds so don't give me the washed up ****. If you're happy to use that kind of logic then please never use Genaro Hernandez to big up Floyd's resume, he was the definition of a fighter at the end of his career.

    Tell me which fighters you think Hatton should have fought by this point and I'll give you twice as many in relation to Floyd. And if you want to see ridiculous hyping of opposition then do a search on Philip N'Dou.

    Would I take Thaxton or Magee over Judah? I'd certainly give Magee a shot, although he's probably too lazy. Thaxton's got decent power which would give him a slim chance because Judah's a glass jawed bum who's greatest achievement is being 1-1 with Spinks, and Floyd still managed to look bad against him for the 1st 4 rounds even though Zab went into the fight with zero confindence.
    If Ricky was carrying 40 pounds of fat, he'd have had a heart attack 5 years ago. It's water weight which is the easiest weight to lose, but can make you look bloated. Ricky drinks his ass off between fights, which is upping his intake of carbs and doing nothing to get rid of them. he could Atkins diet 35 pounds off.

    Hatton fans will sit there and claim Thaxton, Tackie, Magee, etc are all tough fights, when they're merely C level fights. put it this way, if Floyd fought any of those guys since 2002, would we be using that as a reason for his greatness? Hell no, it'd be even worse than now.

    Tszyu that Hatton fought was not the Tszyu from 2003 that everyone tries to play him off as. The guy was on a chris Byrd pace of fights with 3 fights in just under 3 years. Would you call that a prime Tszyu? No chance. Yes, he's still Kostya Tszyu, a man who rana 140 for years. However, everyone ages, and Kostya was there for the taking. I pick him to win, but I wasn't at all surprised by the loss.

    n'Dou was a homecoming fight, it was his first fight in Michigan in quite some time, just as Mora was at one point a homecoming opponent for Taylor. People are allowed to do that, just as ricky followed up with the limited Maussa...look what he did his last fight.

    judah would beat the **** out of Thaxton and Magee, especially Magee. Thaxton would eat far too many punches on the way in to not get stopped.

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    • GEOFFHAYES
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      #72
      Originally posted by Mattyp151
      If Ricky was carrying 40 pounds of fat, he'd have had a heart attack 5 years ago. It's water weight which is the easiest weight to lose, but can make you look bloated. Ricky drinks his ass off between fights, which is upping his intake of carbs and doing nothing to get rid of them. he could Atkins diet 35 pounds off.

      Hatton fans will sit there and claim Thaxton, Tackie, Magee, etc are all tough fights, when they're merely C level fights. put it this way, if Floyd fought any of those guys since 2002, would we be using that as a reason for his greatness? Hell no, it'd be even worse than now.

      Tszyu that Hatton fought was not the Tszyu from 2003 that everyone tries to play him off as. The guy was on a chris Byrd pace of fights with 3 fights in just under 3 years. Would you call that a prime Tszyu? No chance. Yes, he's still Kostya Tszyu, a man who rana 140 for years. However, everyone ages, and Kostya was there for the taking. I pick him to win, but I wasn't at all surprised by the loss.

      n'Dou was a homecoming fight, it was his first fight in Michigan in quite some time, just as Mora was at one point a homecoming opponent for Taylor. People are allowed to do that, just as ricky followed up with the limited Maussa...look what he did his last fight.

      judah would beat the **** out of Thaxton and Magee, especially Magee. Thaxton would eat far too many punches on the way in to not get stopped.
      Don't you even bore yourself with that gibberish?

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      • Mech.
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        #73
        Originally posted by Mattyp151
        If Ricky was carrying 40 pounds of fat, he'd have had a heart attack 5 years ago. It's water weight which is the easiest weight to lose, but can make you look bloated. Ricky drinks his ass off between fights, which is upping his intake of carbs and doing nothing to get rid of them. he could Atkins diet 35 pounds off.

        Hatton fans will sit there and claim Thaxton, Tackie, Magee, etc are all tough fights, when they're merely C level fights. put it this way, if Floyd fought any of those guys since 2002, would we be using that as a reason for his greatness? Hell no, it'd be even worse than now.

        Tszyu that Hatton fought was not the Tszyu from 2003 that everyone tries to play him off as. The guy was on a chris Byrd pace of fights with 3 fights in just under 3 years. Would you call that a prime Tszyu? No chance. Yes, he's still Kostya Tszyu, a man who rana 140 for years. However, everyone ages, and Kostya was there for the taking. I pick him to win, but I wasn't at all surprised by the loss.

        n'Dou was a homecoming fight, it was his first fight in Michigan in quite some time, just as Mora was at one point a homecoming opponent for Taylor. People are allowed to do that, just as ricky followed up with the limited Maussa...look what he did his last fight.

        judah would beat the **** out of Thaxton and Magee, especially Magee. Thaxton would eat far too many punches on the way in to not get stopped.
        And thats all that needed to be said about that.

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        • GTL
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          #74
          i didnt read through all those pages but, the fight can go two ways..

          hatton does exactly wut juice said.. smothers him n uses his jab ands all that good stuff which i hope happens

          or

          mayweather just pot shots him all nite.. counters him and makes him walk into his bombs all night..

          when i saw the collazo fight the first few rounds, i was like.. omg, mayweather cant handle this kid.. hes too wild n puts on way too much pressure.. but the mid rounds collazo adapted n won a handfull of rounds..

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          • Mattyp151
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            #75
            Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES
            Don't you even bore yourself with that gibberish?
            As long as you got your face locked in Hatton's crotch, I suggest you don't even go that route.

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              #76
              Originally posted by !! A - FORCE !!
              its crazy how majority of americans think thats how hatton fights. they dont even take into consideration that he was very badly muscle bound.
              That's true.

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                #77
                Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES
                That's true.
                Seriously, anyone that thinks Hatton is no good has obvious issues, but to think he has a good chance or even a halfway decent chance of beating Floyd is just as crazy. Floyd holds every advantage: Height, reach, speed, defense, accuracy, stamina, chin. The only thing questionable between them is power and I know you love to talk about Hatton's power, but the truth is that he wears guys down. When have you seen PBF worn down???? Hatton doesn't have the one punch KO power and he won't outbox, outlast, or hurt Floyd. I've said before, I'm a Hatton fan, but he doesn't have much of a chance.

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                • Mattyp151
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES
                  Yeah, obviously. It was quite pathetic, but amazing at the same time that he somehow managed to win!
                  Quite pathetic that 7 pounds when he comes down from 180 to hit 140 that he would have trouble getting to 147. He had already been training, and sorry but 7 pounds of muscle isn't going to make someone go from superstar to six rounder.

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                  • GEOFFHAYES
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Mattyp151
                    Quite pathetic that 7 pounds when he comes down from 180 to hit 140 that he would have trouble getting to 147. He had already been training, and sorry but 7 pounds of muscle isn't going to make someone go from superstar to six rounder.
                    Dude, Hatton weighed 210 in Jan '05. Losing fat is easy.

                    Kayes had just five or six weeks to put 7lbs of muscle onto Hatton's frame, that's what they focussed on before the fight. And Bodybuilding slows you down, in Hatton's case it didn't just slow him down but turned him into a some kind of slug.

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                    • bakey321
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES
                      Dude, Hatton weighed 210 in Jan '05. Losing fat is easy.

                      Kayes had just five or six weeks to put 7lbs of muscle onto Hatton's frame, that's what they focussed on before the fight. And Bodybuilding slows you down, in Hatton's case it didn't just slow him down but turned him into a some kind of slug.
                      That is very sad if it's true. I'm 6'1" and was weighing around 210 a few months ago. I have a large frame and still felt overweight. For Hatton to be 5'7 and weighing that much shows how little discipline he must have. I really don't believe it for a second that a guy going up to 210 lets 7 pounds of muscle slow him down. Are you telling me that he puts on 70 pounds of fat between fights? Then sheds it so easily that he has trouble keeping weight on? Its a medical miracle.

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