Why Hatton would beat Mayweather at 140..

[AllEyesOpen]

I won't even bother with these type of idiots.

It's hard to argue with logic, great post Mattyp

[Cletus Funk]

It's pretty easy to level the same criticism at Floyd's competition over the last 4 years, nothing but shot or C/B- fighters. Floyd's still pretty much unproven at elite level above 135lb.

There's nothing wrong with Magee and Thaxton as opponents, especially at that stage of Hatton's development. Magee was a fixture in the top 10 of the rankings before his kidnapping and Thaxton's just got a shot against Freitas, although admittedly he probably shouldn't have. He's still a decent fighter though and Hatton fought him for the British title.

Those 2 aside, Hatton was facing the same guys as the 2 top dogs in the division at the time, and beating them more convincingly. Where was the criticism for Mitchell & Tszyu for fighting Tackie, Philips, Stewart, etc when they've been established at the top for years. Hatton was fighting them on the way up.

You can try to convince yourself all you like with the Collazo fight but anyone who knows anything about Hatton could see that the weight totally ****ed him up. He could barely move or throw in comparison to his usual self and he looked tired by the 4th round.

Hatton fans tend to have this belief that Ricky possesses this worldly power. However, they tend to ignore the fact he made 15 WBU defenses against less that decent opposition. These are the same people who play Eamonn Magee up as more than a C level fighter, and forget that Thaxton made Ricky's face the equivalent of a human volcano. However, these are guys who haven't done anything outside of beating so-so English fighters, and will never be major players on the world stage. So, sure, he KO's these types with his famous body attack and smothering style, but no one, not even Tszyu, is on the same stratosphere as Mayweather is defensively and as smart in the ring. Collazo took it to Hatton, and Ricky squeaked by on a crap KD, and the biggest shot of the fight was the headbutt in the 3rd. Outside of that, Ricky looked horrid against a guy unknown outside of NYC, and you truly think he's going to trouble Mayweather?

[bsrizpac]

It's pretty easy to level the same criticism at Floyd's competition over the last 4 years, nothing but shot or C/B- fighters. Floyd's still pretty much unproven at elite level above 135lb.

There's nothing wrong with Magee and Thaxton as opponents, especially at that stage of Hatton's development. Magee was a fixture in the top 10 of the rankings before his kidnapping and Thaxton's just got a shot against Freitas, although admittedly he probably shouldn't have. He's still a decent fighter though and Hatton fought him for the British title.

Those 2 aside, Hatton was facing the same guys as the 2 top dogs in the division at the time, and beating them more convincingly. Where was the criticism for Mitchell & Tszyu for fighting Tackie, Philips, Stewart, etc when they've been established at the top for years. Hatton was fighting them on the way up.

You can try to convince yourself all you like with the Collazo fight but anyone who knows anything about Hatton could see that the weight totally ****ed him up. He could barely move or throw in comparison to his usual self and he looked tired by the 4th round.

Tons of excuses for Ricky. seems like his fans are good at coming up with them.

[Cletus Funk]

Nah, it's called logic.

Tons of excuses for Ricky. seems like his fans are good at coming up with them.

[dino]

nice attributes...too bad vs tszyu he held the whole fight...against collazo his jab was no where to be found..neither was his quick feet

[Mattyp151]

It's pretty easy to level the same criticism at Floyd's competition over the last 4 years, nothing but shot or C/B- fighters. Floyd's still pretty much unproven at elite level above 135lb.

There's nothing wrong with Magee and Thaxton as opponents, especially at that stage of Hatton's development. Magee was a fixture in the top 10 of the rankings before his kidnapping and Thaxton's just got a shot against Freitas, although admittedly he probably shouldn't have. He's still a decent fighter though and Hatton fought him for the British title.

Those 2 aside, Hatton was facing the same guys as the 2 top dogs in the division at the time, and beating them more convincingly. Where was the criticism for Mitchell & Tszyu for fighting Tackie, Philips, Stewart, etc when they've been established at the top for years. Hatton was fighting them on the way up.

You can try to convince yourself all you like with the Collazo fight but anyone who knows anything about Hatton could see that the weight totally ****ed him up. He could barely move or throw in comparison to his usual self and he looked tired by the 4th round.

Blaming his weight is crap. He comes down from 175-180 pounds sometimes and hits 140, so 147 isn't an issue. It's the fact he tried to push around a guy who was bigger than him and could take his punches. Ricky can't push the world around like his fans want to make people believe. The Tszyu fight was an abomination of a refereeing job going both directions. Not to mention Tszyu was nearly 36, and had only had 2 fights in over 2 years, so it's not like he was beating a prime Tszyu in there. Ricky isn't this godly fighter who has pounded into submission 41 opponents. Sorry, but 15 WBU defenses is a crock of ****, and outside of 2 of his last 3 fights, Hatton's resume is a laugher. Give Mayweather that resume, and tell me you wouldn't rip on Floyd.

I guess you would take Thaxton and Magee over Judah, seeing as Judah lost because he fell asleep at the wheel vs Baldomir. He was up about 4-2 going into the 7th, and was cruising...just cruising too much.

Last 4 years? How about the first 6 being better than hatton's entire resume. PS, when Floyd was fighting for his first WORLD title at 21, Hatton was fighting 1-2 Kevin Carter in NJ, a guy who ran up an impressive 9-55 record. So please, don't even try and skew resumes because Ricky has 2 big time fights and because both happened in the last 1 1/2 years.

[AllEyesOpen]

It's pretty easy to level the same criticism at Floyd's competition over the last 4 years, nothing but shot or C/B- fighters. Floyd's still pretty much unproven at elite level above 135lb.

There's nothing wrong with Magee and Thaxton as opponents, especially at that stage of Hatton's development. Magee was a fixture in the top 10 of the rankings before his kidnapping and Thaxton's just got a shot against Freitas, although admittedly he probably shouldn't have. He's still a decent fighter though and Hatton fought him for the British title.

Those 2 aside, Hatton was facing the same guys as the 2 top dogs in the division at the time, and beating them more convincingly. Where was the criticism for Mitchell & Tszyu for fighting Tackie, Philips, Stewart, etc when they've been established at the top for years. Hatton was fighting them on the way up.

You can try to convince yourself all you like with the Collazo fight but anyone who knows anything about Hatton could see that the weight totally ****ed him up. He could barely move or throw in comparison to his usual self and he looked tired by the 4th round.

Yeah but what can be said about Mayweather & the last few years of his career can be said about Hatton's entire career, except a few fight here & there.

[raymon123]

Not only does he have superb balance, a beautiful darting jab, splendidly quick hands and feet and frightening timing at times, but he's much stronger than Mayweather and has abnormal stamina (due to a hole in his heart) that allows him to fight bell-to-bell in every round and remain strong. I don't believe Ricky would be too focussed on his finesse in a Mayweather bout, he'll be focussing on speed at closing the distance and breaking rythm, while looking to frustrate Mayweather into leaving himself open to body shots.

He's famous for his body punching ofcourse, with 20+ KO's coming from the left hook to the body, and IMO no former super-featherweight could withstand Hatton's body shots. So for Mayweather to win this fight, he'd need to use a very high punch output (to keep Hatton off him) and dictate from ring centre (because he can't let Hatton get him to the ropes where he'd tee off from angles). But Hatton stood next to Mayweather in Las Vegas last year and says he doesn't know how Mayweather could really keep him off him, because he was quite suprised at how much naturally physically thicker he was to Mayweather.

He has no respect for Mayweather's strength and power, and will be looking to throw him off with a very fast tempo, as well as giving him a lot to think about with feints, footwork, angles, jabs and clinches. As for the body punches, he has developed techniques to land them on anybody - for example he clinches occasionally after burrying his head into a man's chest if he needs a rest, but then moves back slightly and unloads with bombs to the hips. Unless a referee is particularly strict on clinching or something, Hatton has developed this ability to clinch and move out at the right time to land to the body with momentum. And watch over the last few years if Ricky is having trouble with somebody at a certain point he'll hold his hands over his face in a high guard and then simply push through, using sheer strength to get his man on the ropes and then tee off on him with some serious ****.

So what? tito has no respect for hopkins strengh and power and look what happen in that fight. Quick hands? hatton? lol damn you are an idiot. Hatton? quick hands? speed? my goodness. Look it's simple, floyd has face fighters that were bigger then him, stronger then him with more power and floyd still wins. Defensive skill fighters with better hands speed and movement mostly beat fighters with no defense that has power. Look what hopkins did to tito, look what spinks did to mayorga, look what calazgue did to lacy, hell look what toney did to peter ( everybody thought toney easily beat peter).

[meldubb]

Blaming his weight is crap. He comes down from 175-180 pounds sometimes and hits 140, so 147 isn't an issue. It's the fact he tried to push around a guy who was bigger than him and could take his punches. Ricky can't push the world around like his fans want to make people believe. The Tszyu fight was an abomination of a refereeing job going both directions. Not to mention Tszyu was nearly 36, and had only had 2 fights in over 2 years, so it's not like he was beating a prime Tszyu in there. Ricky isn't this godly fighter who has pounded into submission 41 opponents. Sorry, but 15 WBU defenses is a crock of ****, and outside of 2 of his last 3 fights, Hatton's resume is a laugher. Give Mayweather that resume, and tell me you wouldn't rip on Floyd.

I guess you would take Thaxton and Magee over Judah, seeing as Judah lost because he fell asleep at the wheel vs Baldomir. He was up about 4-2 going into the 7th, and was cruising...just cruising too much.

Last 4 years? How about the first 6 being better than hatton's entire resume. PS, when Floyd was fighting for his first WORLD title at 21, Hatton was fighting 1-2 Kevin Carter in NJ, a guy who ran up an impressive 9-55 record. So please, don't even try and skew resumes because Ricky has 2 big time fights and because both happened in the last 1 1/2 years.

I totally agree I feel that Ricky Hatton should not reaaly even be in boxing. Think about it Hatton has a tough time making 140 and know hes going back there where he really will get beat and going to 147 he was too small and didnt feel comfortable? The guy has no jab, the only way he can beat you is if he gets inside sometimes he cant even do that Floyd will MURDER Hatton. Bottomline, I GIVE HATTON NO CHANCE AGAINST MAYWEATHER!!!!NONE!!!!!!!!!

[bigtime9]

Blaming his weight is crap. He comes down from 175-180 pounds sometimes and hits 140, so 147 isn't an issue. It's the fact he tried to push around a guy who was bigger than him and could take his punches. Ricky can't push the world around like his fans want to make people believe. The Tszyu fight was an abomination of a refereeing job going both directions. Not to mention Tszyu was nearly 36, and had only had 2 fights in over 2 years, so it's not like he was beating a prime Tszyu in there. Ricky isn't this godly fighter who has pounded into submission 41 opponents. Sorry, but 15 WBU defenses is a crock of ****, and outside of 2 of his last 3 fights, Hatton's resume is a laugher. Give Mayweather that resume, and tell me you wouldn't rip on Floyd.

cosign to the 9...they need a hero who they can relate to. Hatton is very limited skill wise and talent wise, and Urango will prove it