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  • Left2body
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    #51
    Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES
    You probably don't even know what Magee's skin colour is..

    Let me tell you, apart from being a southpaw, Eamonn Magee is a former TOP amateur who got a silver medal at the World Junior's in 1989 and avenged his defeat to Urkal in 1993 before quitting boxing for a few years. He only turned pro because he had no money, when he fought Hatton it was the first time he ever got himself into shape, he stopped smoking for the first time ever and knocked out some former European champions in sparring for Hatton. Magee had been robbed against Paul Burke with no training, and apart from that he'd only lost one early fight.

    Magee was a genuine, world-class fighter who Hatton out-boxed. Remember, Hatton/Magee was a 50/50 pick 'em! Magee had showed flashes in his career of awesome handspeed here and there, and was very effective at counter-punching off the ropes.

    I know who Magee is and I've probably seen as many Hatton fights as any American who is not a boxer themselves.....Hatton cannot box he can just swarm and get into wars with people that real top fighters demolish. He outboxed who Tackie come on Cotto shutout Maussa and picked him apart but Hatton gets drawn into a brawl with him because he can't box.

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    • GEOFFHAYES
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      #52
      He looked razor sharp against Stewart, had very accurate output against Oliveira, and totally befuddled Tackie with his beautiful darting jab and footwork. Try watching these fights.

      Oliveira had set CompuBox records for ammount of punches he threw, but he could barely get off any shots against Hatton. It was very impressive. It was a systematic beatdown of technical skill and punches from all sides, not even needing to throw a single jab throughout.

      Then there was the Magee fight, every time Magee leaned back up on the ropes I expected him to counter the **** out of Hatton.. but then I see a couple head feints, a combo, a step back and a jab as he came back


      Also, it's blatantly clear watching Hatton's early fights that the kid was special, and plans were to get him a world title shot by '00. It's a shame how it looked like it was turning out, but everything worked out good in the end (Tszyu) and he's STILL undefeated..

      Remember, Hatton used to break the Sky Sports records for success rate when he was coming up - it was sometimes up at 65-70%! That is awesome no matter who's in front of you.
      Last edited by GEOFFHAYES; 08-26-2006, 01:29 PM.

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        #53
        so what, lookin good against below-average fighters is pretty easy

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        • GEOFFHAYES
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          #54
          Originally posted by Left2body
          I know who Magee is and I've probably seen as many Hatton fights as any American who is not a boxer themselves.....Hatton cannot box he can just swarm and get into wars with people that real top fighters demolish. He outboxed who Tackie come on Cotto shutout Maussa and picked him apart but Hatton gets drawn into a brawl with him because he can't box.
          Hatton chose to constantly close the distance against Maussa, you ******. It was his tactics. They felt that Maussa couldn't fight being backed up.

          Hatton cannot box? Well, you've just never seen him box. I have.

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            #55
            Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES
            Hatton chose to constantly close the distance against Maussa, you ******. It was his tactics. They felt that Maussa couldn't fight being backed up.

            Hatton cannot box? Well, you've just never seen him box. I have.
            yeah we know uve seen him box hes all u talk about here

            if hatton is such a polished boxer why when he started falling behind vs collazo did he just aimlessly walk forward with no purpose, then act like a octopus all night

            anyone can look good vs journeyman which is what magee,phillips,tackie are

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              #56
              Originally posted by El Temible
              so what, lookin good against below-average fighters is pretty easy
              You can show skill on a punching bag.

              Please, post a vid of you throwing a four-punch combination with your left hand - two left hooks to head, left uppercut to head and left hook to body. And, you've got 1.5 seconds to complete the combo.

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                #57
                Originally posted by El Temible
                if hatton is such a polished boxer why when he started falling behind vs collazo did he just aimlessly walk forward with no purpose, then act like a octopus all night
                Dude, the Collazo fight was a laughing stock. Hatton was clearly in no condition to box sharply, he could barely move! Kayes put seven lbs of muscle onto his frame in just six weeks - he was slower than a snail.

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                • GEOFFHAYES
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                  #58
                  The fact that Hatton managed to grind out the win against a half-decent fighter (Collazo) in that condition is quite extraordinary.

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                  • Left2body
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES
                    He looked razor sharp against Stewart, had very accurate output against Oliveira, and totally befuddled Tackie with his beautiful darting jab and footwork. Try watching these fights.

                    Oliveira had set CompuBox records for ammount of punches he threw, but he could barely get off any shots against Hatton. It was very impressive. It was a systematic beatdown of technical skill and punches from all sides, not even needing to throw a single jab throughout.

                    Then there was the Magee fight, every time Magee leaned back up on the ropes I expected him to counter the **** out of Hatton.. but then I see a couple head feints, a combo, a step back and a jab as he came back Brilliant.


                    Also, it's blatantly clear watching Hatton's early fights that the kid was special, and plans were to get him a world title shot by '00. It's a shame how it looked like it was turning out, but everything worked out good in the end (Tszyu) and he's STILL undefeated..

                    Remember, Hatton used to break the Sky Sports records for success rate when he was coming up - it was sometimes up at 65-70%! That is awesome no matter who's in front of you.

                    Against low level competition a decent fighter can look great. Pauli Malignagi looked untouchable in his highlights...look at his post fight photos. He can do that against C-level fighters against C+/B level fighters he will struggle and eventually lose...against B+/A level fighters he will be dominated. Hatton knows this himself.

                    Case in point......Hatton wanted to fight Gatti if Gatti beat Baldomir. Gatti a C-level fighter was stopped. Does Hatton go for another WW champ, top contender or even give Collazo a rematch?.....nope he see's WW is to talented and goes back down the talent depleted jrWW division where he can find another C-level fighter to replace Gatti.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by El Temible
                      you have just been exposed as a liar and nuthugger

                      Vivian Harris opted to fight in a WBA title fight insteaf od goin to manchester and fightin for a crappy WBU belt

                      Mitchell fought on the undercard of a hatton fight and later had talks with FW about a fight but it never came about

                      edit: did he also call eamonn magee world class
                      Um, Harris already had the WBA title. He turned down a career-high payday of $750,000 to go to Manchester to fight Hatton and opted instead to fight for $50,000 in a defense against Maussa where he got KTFO, then Maussa went to Manchester and got KTFO by Hatton.

                      Just because you have never seen Magee fight, and don't know who he is, doesn't mean he's not world class. He never really proved it against Americans or Mexicans, but he was definitely a tough customer and a world-class level fighter, simply watch his fight with Hatton, a close fight, toe-to-toe, put Hatton down, etc. If nothing else, that proves that Magee was a world-class level fighter- that's right up there as the top 2-3 toughest fights Hatton has ever had.

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