Why did David Haye do so poorly against Wladimir Klitschko?

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #21
    Originally posted by War Room


    The autopsy report showed his toe was actually dented. It had to be surgically removed. David is lucky to be alive.
    It’s a miracle he’s still able to walk.

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    • pepzz
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      #22
      His toe thats why....

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      • Nash out
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        #23
        Originally posted by W1LL


        Saying this fight was a let-down, or Haye performed badly, are both myths. Haye fought an ATG champion in his backyard and gave it his all. So what if he came up short? Haye was a great Cruiserweight champion, had a so-so Heavyweight run. I think the people who try to trash Haye in this fight are the idiots who bought into the hype that he was some kind of Roy Jones/Lennox Lewis hybrid. The fight was a good one and Haye tried but was too small.
        Some people don't realise how good these HW's are. Look at Usyk, one of the best CW's ever, narrowly beating Chisora, a current top 15/20 HW. Haye was world class, but so was Wlad, and Wlad had the physical advantages, and was good enough to execute them.

        As Roy Jones JR said at the time, but will likely dent now, he moved up to HW to win a belt against a guy he knew he could beat, but went back down as he could not beat the Klitschko's.

        Like most retired fighters they get deluded in old age, so I think Roy Denies this now, but I remember hearing him say it, as do many others.

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        • PRINCEKOOL
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          #24
          For me David Haye was just edged in each round, due to Kiltschko's jab.

          David Haye was not beaten up, or the referee at any point close to stopping the fight 'People are over-exaggerating when they try and make out that Haye was beat down'.

          From a technical perspective, it seemed like both fighters canceled each other out 'Both Haye's and Kiltschko's defense was just too good for ether fighter to have any great sustained success, unless they where to take a big risk'.

          Other than Tyson Fury, David Haye is the only heavyweight who Wladimir Kiltschko has struggled to land any punches on etc

          And that was a peak Kiltschko.

          Note: David Haye at heavyweight was a ambush fighter, the game-plan was to follow up on his single ambush attacks with immediate follow up's 'But he struggled to implement those tactics' Adam Booth briefly touched upon the game-plan, and stated 'It was the first time in my career working with Haye, where he struggled or never implemented my instructions inside of the ring. Usually if I was to give Haye a instruction? You would see him bring that into the next round, whether he was successful with it or not'.

          I also think a peak David Haye would of obliterated Tyson Fury. Fury does not hit hard enough to deter Haye. Haye could also compute information just as fast as Fury 'People forget, he was injured vs Kiltchko and was standing right in-front of him with his hands down at times' David Haye was a 6"3 216 pound fighter doing all of that.
          Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 02-15-2021, 04:35 PM.

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          • War Room
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            #25
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
            For me David Haye was just edged in each round, due to Kiltschko's jab.[/I]

            I also think a peak David Haye would of obliterated Tyson Fury.

            WRONG

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              #26
              Because English men are frail.

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              • PRINCEKOOL
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                #27
                Originally posted by War Room
                Wladimir Kiltschko just edged the rounds, both the fighters did not look dimensions apart in terms of ability 'They both cancel each other out'.

                Was the referee about to stop the fight at any point? No. Was David Haye beaten up? No.

                Haye actually landed the biggest punch of the fight in round 12.


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                • Dodger07
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by HitmanTommy
                  The fight was an extremely huge letdown. The pre-fight was amazing all the way up to the ring entrance and then nothing happened.

                  Just expected a lot more for my money's worth.
                  Honestly, he did better than i expected.

                  Being the much smaller guy and inexperienced at HW, I thought he was going to get beaten up then TKO'd. Wlad was much stronger and had a style that is usually very physically draining for smaller fighters (jab, grab, big right hand until exhaustion). But Haye, although lost almost every round, did not take much punishment and actually landed a few decent shots of his own. This 100% was an instance of a guy talking his way to a big fight

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                  • paulf
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                    #29
                    I thought Haye came in with a great gameplan and put on a very good performance performance.

                    Unfortunately for Haye, Klitschko put on a career best performance, by far. Steward was on his ass between every round telling him to pick up the pace and do more or he would lose. He saw what Haye and Booth were up to. If Wlad had hung back on the outside, pawed the jab and waited for the right hand setup like he usually did, the fight might have been a very different ending.

                    Instead, Wladimir poured on the pressure and never let Haye get set, which was especially bad for Haye considering his injury. I gave Haye 3 or 4 rounds, but that doesnt tell the story of how competitive the fight was. Would have been nice to see a rematch or a fight with Vitali, but after all the nonsense that happened ahead of the fight being made it's no surprise that Klitschkos wanted nothing to do with Haye after Wlad got the W.

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                    • champion4ever
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                      #30
                      It's because he was afraid. He was afraid of getting hit. Which is why he broke his toe from running all night.

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