Luis Ortiz just seems like a "lesser povetkin" to me

[MoneyKasha]

i think him and Povetkin are close in skill, but Pov has the much greater world class experience

nothing i see that makes him special why Wilder fans rate him so high

[famicommander]

Ortiz is bigger and he's a southpaw. Otherwise he's very similar to Povetkin. I agree that Povetkin has the better resume but I think they are the same tier of fighter.

[Eff Pandas]

Ortiz gots skills, but yea he does kinda feel like a poor mans Povetkin in that he's not quite got the W's Povetkin has. And thats the thing with Ortiz. He DOES have skills, but he's not gotten to show them very often with his top two W's being Bryant Jennings & Malik Scott ffs. His whole career is based upon being Deontay's nemesis more than anything else it seems like.

[famicommander]

Ortiz gots skills, but yea he does kinda feel like a poor mans Povetkin in that he's not quite got the W's Povetkin has. And thats the thing with Ortiz. He DOES have skills, but he's not gotten to show them very often with his top two W's being Bryant Jennings & Malik Scott ffs. His whole career is based upon being Deontay's nemesis more than anything else it seems like.

I think part of the reason he has such a rep is because a lot of fighters called him out and then backed down when he accepted their public challenges. Jarrell Miller and Dillian Whyte both did it.

[Fanofreason]

Funny how all of you said he was elite. And then after Wilder beats him twice he is barely a top 10 HW. Nice job trolling scrubs

[Gandhi]

Funny how all of you said he was elite. And then after Wilder beats him twice he is barely a top 10 HW. Nice job trolling scrubs

Stop lying. No one called Oldtiz elite.

Without being biased, Povetkin has always been better than Oldtiz.

Oldtiz is more of a southpaw version Malik Scott with a bit more power/heart. Povetkin is levels above him.

[MastaBlasta]

Ortiz hasn't been able to prove the skills that many believe he has, because so many top guys would not dare get in a ring with him. That's really not his fault. He came over late from Cuba after a long and excellent amateur career (many younger fans don't how hard it was to defect from Cuba ... it could've cost his life and nearly did).

He never had the support or leverage to get big-time fights. Coming over as an older fighter, none of the elite promoters had any vested interest in his career. Haymon and Wilder gave him an opportunity no one else would, and he has been rightly appreciative. It's a shame though. He was with hearn for years but they never considered putting him in with anyone top level ... afraid he would derail their plans.

Everything and anything Ortiz shows at this point is a gift and blessing to boxing fans ... and just the tip of the iceberg of what we could have witnessed these last 10 or 11 years ... had he been given opportunities that his amateur career should have earned. He's sought the fights the whole time (minus a few snafus from his Team which has never been the most experienced in the ways of western pro boxing).

[LA_2_Vegas]

Ortiz is very good and maybe if he was able to take another path he would have been able to do as much as Povetkin, but he hasn't. Povetkin is on a higher level career wise to me - if he earns another shot he is approaching being one of the most notable names of recent era, doesn't he? He was somewhat underrated right before Whyte, maybe some people giving his career a relook especially if he wins again. I'm not the biggest HW historian but it would seem like a big feat.

I feel bad that Ortiz didn't get to show more in his youth

[kafkod]

Povetkin has always been a level or 2 above Ortiz, both as an amateur and as a pro.

[edgarg]

Stop lying. No one called Oldtiz elite.

Without being biased, Povetkin has always been better than Oldtiz.

Oldtiz is more of a southpaw version Malik Scott with a bit more power/heart. Povetkin is levels above him.

I don't know why you call him Oldtiz. Povetkin is 41, the same age as Ortiz, and you don't call hom Oldovkin... In Povetkin's last fight , if the position to throw the perfect uppercut had not suddenly made it's appearance, he'd have been stopped in another round or two.