"Who? What has he done? Who is he?" - Floyd Mayweather

[guru]

there have been many times where it was stated how much fighters would make(or potentially make) on fights, but they havent done for floyd/baldy... at least not that i've seen yet..

[Bozo_no no]

Yes, it's all speculation. The "proof" you quoted to me was just that, speculation. "..industry sources believe.." That's speculation if I ever heard it, totally meaningless. If he was making $8M guaranteed, then Goosen would have just said so, without all the dodging when he was asked directly. He would never say one way or the other. So actually, YOU are just speculating that he's making $8M guaranteed, just like I'm speculating that he isn't. Neither of us has seen the contract, and official numbers have not been released (which tells you something right there).

Do you ever stop and think about how pathetic you are?

99% of your crying over the last 3 months has been completley based off the 8Million dollar offer Arum supposedly gaurenteed.

It's very clear from that article the Payday is in that neighbourhood. GET OVER IT ALREADY.

It's unreal how desperate you are to cling to your ignorance.

As for the DLH numbers, yes, I'm speculating, just like you are. I'd guess around 900K if I had to. And that's speculating on a fight that is pure speculation. LOL

And after you told me two pages back you didn't 'think' Floyd would get 8 Million in the Delahoya fight, that sure makes your estimations about such a fight pretty on point doesn't it ace?


That fight does a million PPV buys EASY. I'll bet you any amount you want on that fact alone.

But when we look past that and remember it was brought up in regards to your spinning trying to suggest it's not better than the supposed 8 Million dollar gaurentee Floyd had for Margarito, we can all share a good laugh.

[Bozo_no no]

there have been many times where it was stated how much fighters would make(or potentially make) on fights, but they havent done for floyd/baldy... at least not that i've seen yet..

It's always 2nd hand info. You've never seen a contract in your life.

That estimate in this article http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2549586

are typical of what's discussed before a fight.

The fight will do moderate PPV sales, and I think it easilly stands to reason Floyd will make in the neighbourhood of 8 Million.

[mECHsLAVE]

That ESPN link was from Dan Rafael. Sure it's possible it's all made up, but he's generally a credible source.

No one's releasing any details about anything for any fight, but it's safe to say those indication in that article are pointing to Floyd getting in and around 8 Million for the Baldomir fight.

Goosen was asked point blank if Floyd was being guaranteed $8M for this fight, and could not simply say "Yes, absolutely." He dodged the issue and would never say one way or the other.

Dan Rafael is not lying, because he doesn't know anything. He said "industry sources believe." LOL That's a joke. That's another way of saying that some unnamed industry sources are speculating that Floyd will make $8M for the Baldomir fight.

And you're totally wrong. Usually exact numbers are quoted at some point by the promoters or the managers or the fighters. "He's making $5M guaranteed." "He's making only $250,000." etc. There is nothing like that with this fight. Goosen is a slick dude, and he knows the contract will at some point have to be filed with the commission and that Arum is going to be all over it (they two hate each other) and so he's being careful not to lie, but careful not to piss off Floyd by explaining he's not guaranteed $8M. That's my take on it.

If he was guaranteed $8M, wouldn't Goosen be proud to brag about it? After all, that's an accomplishment by any promoter, to have Baldomir making a reported $1.5M and Floyd a $8M guarantee, for a fight that may or may not do that well on PPV. Goosen won't say, so that's a little su****ious to me.

[guru]

It's always 2nd hand info. You've never seen a contract in your life.

That estimate in this article http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2549586

are typical of what's discussed before a fight.

The fight will do moderate PPV sales, and I think it easilly stands to reason Floyd will make in the neighbourhood of 8 Million.

sometimes its first hand, when the promoters or the fighters themselves come right out and say it...

[Bozo_no no]

Goosen was asked point blank if Floyd was being guaranteed $8M for this fight, and could not simply say "Yes, absolutely." He dodged the issue and would never say one way or the other.

Dan Rafael is not lying, because he doesn't know anything. He said "industry sources believe." LOL That's a joke. That's another way of saying that some unnamed industry sources are speculating that Floyd will make $8M for the Baldomir fight.

And you're totally wrong. Usually exact numbers are quoted at some point by the promoters or the managers or the fighters. "He's making $5M guaranteed." "He's making only $250,000." etc. There is nothing like that with this fight. Goosen is a slick dude, and he knows the contract will at some point have to be filed with the commission and that Arum is going to be all over it (they two hate each other) and so he's being careful not to lie, but careful not to piss off Floyd by explaining he's not guaranteed $8M. That's my take on it.

If he was guaranteed $8M, wouldn't Goosen be proud to brag about it? After all, that's an accomplishment by any promoter, to have Baldomir making a reported $1.5M and Floyd a $8M guarantee, for a fight that may or may not do that well on PPV. Goosen won't say, so that's a little su****ious to me.

More spinning, and it's easy to see that you cling so desperatly to that 8 Million dollar offer from Arum as a back bone to everything you think justifies your crying.



How's about you go ahead and post where and when this question was put to Goosen?

The bottom line is that it stands to reason with the incentives Floyd is making the same money he would have made fighting Margarito, and that infuriates you becuase it pulls out the only leg your crying had to stand on.

But as you continue to spin spin away desperate to change the topic, I'll once again remind you that Margarito is NOT fighting Floyd anytime sooon, and all of your crying about it isn't going to change the fact he should be looking to take the best fights out there possible

The fact tht you can't move on to think about who he should be fighting next only underlines how fixated you are on the one topic that's brought you back week after week to cry about.

Let it go, and move on.

[guru]

i didnt think tony/pbf could pay $8 mil, so i certainly dont think pbf/baldy will do it... i think pbf/tony would sell more PPV's and tix

[Bozo_no no]

sometimes its first hand, when the promoters or the fighters themselves come right out and say it...

Unless you see a contract, you have no idea what is and isn't true. Promoters and fighters constnatly lie about purses and splits.

[mECHsLAVE]

sometimes its first hand, when the promoters or the fighters themselves come right out and say it...

Exactly. And Leon asked him, and he just wouldn't say. Why would he dodge a question like that if he was guaranteeing Floyd $8M?

I think it's safe to assume that while Floyd MAY make $8M is the PPV sells well enough, he is by no means guaranteed $8M by Goosen for this fight.

But like I said before, I have no problem with him fighting Baldomir, he just should have done it before the Judah fight. And if Floyd doesn't fight DLH, then Margarito will still be the biggest fight out there for him at the beginning of '07.

[guru]

[QUOTE=Bozo_no no]Unless you see a contract, you have no idea what is and isn't true. Promoters and fighters constnatly lie about purses and splits.[/QUOTE


true, but then why arent they coming out and saying it? if you were floyd and you were gonna make than $8 mil, wouldnt you throw that in arum's face?