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  • djtmal
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    #131
    Originally posted by Oregonian
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    Since English is your 2nd language I’m going to try better.
    Floyd arguably list to Castillo BUT they had a rematch and Floyd won. Case closed.
    It’s the same logic with Maidana. I was trying to help you since English is not your forte.

    I gave you proof on the Marquez and Canelo fights; how come you have nothing to say about those?

    As for Manny, since you didn’t mention him, I take it back. Forgive my lapse in judgement.

    Now, can you please respond to the two facts I gave you about Canelo and Marquez?
    You know what the problem with you Floyd Boys is, you hold everybody else accountable for their actions but when it comes to Floyd, you want everybody to accept your who's who list of excuses.

    You said Manny arguably lost to Marquez, I said Floyd arguably lost to Castillo in the first fight, f**k the but he lost the rematch. We not talking about the rematch. If he arguably lost the first fight it is what it is. Get it. Got it. Good.

    You said Manny fought Cotto at a catchweight ok I don't make an excuse, but when I say Floyd fought Alvarez at a catchweight, again, here come the excuses. Both were catchweight fights mind yous Idgaf whose idea it was. Get it. Got it. Good.

    And poor Marquez what possible excuse could you have for Floyd. Marquez was a lightweight one fight, and in the next fight he moves up two weightclasses to fight Floyd at a catchweight, to which Floyd welched on the scales and paid a penalty. Anybody trying to make up an excuse for that should be banned from this site.

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    • thebrownbomber_
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      #132
      Originally posted by blowblow
      but if you ask mike tyson who has the better legacy between the two.. what would be the answer?
      Mike Tyson is overrated. Ask Larry Holmes who had the better career

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        #133
        Once again, not just Cotto, but Margarito and De La Hoya

        Marquez was the one that called out Mayweather, not the other one around. Marquez certainly wasn't too small when he knocked pacquiao out cold at welteweight.

        The difference between the Canelo and Cotto situation: Mannys team wanted the CW against Cotto, Canelos team suggested the catchweight.

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        • blowblow
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          #134
          Originally posted by thebrownbomber_
          Mike Tyson is overrated. Ask Larry Holmes who had the better career
          my bad. i think it's much better to ask the HOFers.. mike tyson is just 1 exapmple..

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          • edgarg
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            #135
            Originally posted by Roadblock
            We call them a ring laborer, they fringe guys often used by top liners for solid work but never a threat.

            The point Im making is this was as far from a really good Margarito you could be his story is woe is me, he was a high work rate robot at his best which was years earlier and after the heavy Mosley KO followed by the loaded glove pressure plus the forced time out, blowing up in weight, a win over C grade guy at 154 and then Manny at 150 in which he had trouble making at that point near the end of his career.

            It was a bigger win for Manny on paper than what it really was , made to order .

            Im not trying to run Manny down I know where is he at, Im talking actual boxing and know you relate to what Im saying and it makes sense to you because you understand what all this means .
            Yes I do, ther's a lot in what you say. Much that happens, "beneath" the sharp end of a fight is not known by the average fan. Just one thing. Margarito was 32 when he fought Pacquiao and not nearly finished in any way, until after that fight, which caused his precipitous decline.

            And I think that in the cirsumstances, Garcia was a solid opponent for him. I did not know he ballooned up in weight. I read that he kept in training all during that 15 month period of inactivity. And certainly the 5 months between Garcia and MannyP, wouldn not be used for partying or high life. Margarito was a modest, humble fellow and lived very quietly.

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            • Roadblock
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              #136
              Originally posted by edgarg
              Yes I do, ther's a lot in what you say. Much that happens, "beneath" the sharp end of a fight is not known by the average fan. Just one thing. Margarito was 32 when he fought Pacquiao and not nearly finished in any way, until after that fight, which caused his precipitous decline.

              And I think that in the cirsumstances, Garcia was a solid opponent for him. I did not know he ballooned up in weight. I read that he kept in training all during that 15 month period of inactivity. And certainly the 5 months between Garcia and MannyP, wouldn not be used for partying or high life. Margarito was a modest, humble fellow and lived very quietly.
              Youre a bit of fresh air in here Edgarg I get so sick of talking to children fanboys that really dont know a dam thing what they on about with boxing, they just fanboy sheep following headlines either loving or hating you cant get a reasonable thinking conversation out of them, they remind me of woman gossiping.

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              • Wizardsh
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                #137
                Originally posted by thebrownbomber_
                Once again, not just Cotto, but Margarito and De La Hoya

                Marquez was the one that called out Mayweather, not the other one around. Marquez certainly wasn't too small when he knocked pacquiao out cold at welteweight.

                The difference between the Canelo and Cotto situation: Mannys team wanted the CW against Cotto, Canelos team suggested the catchweight.
                Okay idiot Floyd had no business fighting Marquez regardless if he called him out. Marquez is and was to small for welter

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                • Roadblock
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Wizardsh
                  Okay idiot Floyd had no business fighting Marquez regardless if he called him out. Marquez is and was to small for welter
                  So was Floyd a small WW a natural WW is about 160 fight night, he was never over 152 and JMM was 150 fighting Floyd and Koing Manny, there is way more to it than face value , Manny Floyd and JMM from 135 to 147 were all no further than 4 pounds apart fight night, a little bit of research can verify this.

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                  • R-Hand Southpaw
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by djtmal
                    You know what the problem with you Floyd Boys is, you hold everybody else accountable for their actions but when it comes to Floyd, you want everybody to accept your who's who list of excuses.

                    You said Manny arguably lost to Marquez, I said Floyd arguably lost to Castillo in the first fight, f**k the but he lost the rematch. We not talking about the rematch. If he arguably lost the first fight it is what it is. Get it. Got it. Good.

                    You said Manny fought Cotto at a catchweight ok I don't make an excuse, but when I say Floyd fought Alvarez at a catchweight, again, here come the excuses. Both were catchweight fights mind yous Idgaf whose idea it was. Get it. Got it. Good.

                    And poor Marquez what possible excuse could you have for Floyd. Marquez was a lightweight one fight, and in the next fight he moves up two weightclasses to fight Floyd at a catchweight, to which Floyd welched on the scales and paid a penalty. Anybody trying to make up an excuse for that should be banned from this site.
                    They're literally too ****** to be aware of how ****** they are and when you point out the objective truth their go to is

                    "*******!"

                    Because only "Pacquiao fans" critize Floyd because they're jealous.

                    Floyd could have done a lot different to have left a different legacy, but he chose to do ****** **** and not fight the best when they were available.

                    Like Floyd didn't care about PEDs until Manny was on the radar in 2009. Floyd fangirls be like Manny said he was afraid of needles so he must be using.

                    Yet they have no evidence and Floyd got sued for defamation and paid a settlement.

                    And then when the did fight Floyd illegally used an IV and didn't submit the paperwork until after.

                    What a crock of ****.

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                    • just the facts
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by blowblow
                      prime pac will beat any version of ODLH.. he was too fast and explosive.. he already said it pac is all wrong for him..
                      So tiny, past prime, Morales beats Pac but Oscar couldn't? Really?

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