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How was 40 yr old Manny betting favorite ? lol the book makers know what side the issues and injuries are on.

Irrefutable facts are not excuses youre beating a dead horse like a child sobbing in the corner, it dont matter how you frame it you cannot get over the facts, he was broken the proof is all over it there is no doubt, if he had of destroyed Lopez you would have something factual to suggest he was 100%, he didnt yet Maidana stopped a younger better version of Lopez, Thurman was nearly stopped and Roach said he thought he was watching a 4 round boy, how do you dismiss it with nothing.

All you want to do is jump to Floyd, start a thread and I will kick your ass all over that one as well, you dont know enough you dont want to be open minded and look at evidence you are just a Manny cheer leader and Floyd hater nothing more.

Roadblock you challenging Larry for undisputed Floyd excuse maker.

You can call your "facts" whatever you want to call them, but the bottom line is a waaaay past prime Manny beat the brakes off prime, undefeated two belt champ Keith Thurman. Thurman called him out because he thought Manny was an old, easy mark and took an L. Real talk. Before the fight he was talking big time s@@t, after the fight he was taking pictures of his purple arm and every interview was nothing but excuses. Gtfoh. Sounds a lot like you now.

The win was cool with you Floyd boys until you realized Floyd ducked Thurman for Berto, then all the facts, excuses, whatever you want to call them started rolling in. Now you on every Manny/Floyd thread playing damage control. Responding to every dudes post who favors Manny or even just respects Manny's accomplishments. The subject could be Manny playing golf on a Sunday afternoon, and you will turn it into a Manny smear campaign

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A prime Manny got blasted into la land by a past his prime Marquez and arguable got beat 3 other times by Marquez.

A prime Manny got beat by Morales.

If Manny was that great, why demand catchweights vs Cotto and Margarito?
Why fight guys that were coming off losses - Margarito, Mosley, Oscar, Hatton, Brandon Rios, Broner, Mathysse, Morales etc.

Floyd arguably lost to Castillo.

Floyd fought Judah coming off a loss, and Floyd catchweighted Alvarez, and to add insult to injury,
pulled up lightweight Marquez to welterweight at a catchweight, and still welched him on the scales.

We know we know its Floyd so the excuses will be forthcoming.

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They BSing about Mannys weight as it was a good ploy to play the little guy, he was 144 fight night with a 129 weigh-in only 2 yrs earlier, he would be walking around at 150 and hardly had to dry out unlike drying out 15lbs as a 130 pounder , Ive read where Freddy said he had grown in to WW and was 155 at the time Roach was saying it I will try and find that comment for you.

O.K. Thanks, I'll look forward to it....But...what I meant about Freddie saying more than his prayers, is an old saying that indicates a "stretching of the truth" more than a bit. Freddie says a lot of things whoch often are not quite so, and a few days later says almost the opposite. He seems to like having people ask him questions so that he can be in the limelight.. Hes' been doing this a for years. ..and still has th first dollar he ever earned.

*****an aside, nothing to fdo ith this subject... Meinertzhagen in his diaries about the Middle East before and during WW1, stayed in a tent for well over a year with Lawrence of Arabia, during Allenby's campaigns, so knew him well. He said...for such a shy fella' "he has an uncanny way of backing slowly into the limelight"... I thought that this was a PERFECT description of Lawrence.**** (reminds me a bit of Freddie.)

Sorry...just an old memory..

I remember Treddie's "negotiations with Pacquiao to train him. He said "not a cent less".(than 10%). He was very aggressive about it, and Pacquiao couldn't even speak English. He bullied him, and MannyP's natural inborn politeness gave Freddie a big edge.I think he must own the whole block where his gym is. and much more. Pacquiao made him a multi-millionire, and he still looks as if he dresses in someone's cast-offs..

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Roadblock you challenging Larry for undisputed Floyd excuse maker.

You can call your "facts" whatever you want to call them, but the bottom line is a waaaay past prime Manny beat the brakes off prime, undefeated two belt champ Keith Thurman. Thurman called him out because he thought Manny was an old, easy mark and took an L. Real talk. Before the fight he was talking big time s@@t, after the fight he was taking pictures of his purple arm and every interview was nothing but excuses. Gtfoh. Sounds a lot like you now.

The win was cool with you Floyd boys until you realized Floyd ducked Thurman for Berto, then all the facts, excuses, whatever you want to call them started rolling in. Now you on every Manny/Floyd thread playing damage control. Responding to every dudes post who favors Manny or even just respects Manny's accomplishments. The subject could be Manny playing golf on a Sunday afternoon, and you will turn it into a Manny smear campaign

Freddie Roach must be a Manny hater because he thought exactly as I did of broken Thurman.

There are no second prizes you and the other re-tard have been exposed in this thread

read it carefully .

It wasn’t just that Josesito Lopez almost upset Thurman when he hurt the heavily favored fighter in the seventh round. Pacquiao’s trainer considered it a poor performance overall for the unbeaten WBA “super” world welterweight champion and questioned whether Thurman ever can regain the form that enabled him to defeat Danny Garcia and Shawn Porter before injuries interrupted his career.

“I thought I was watching a four-round fighter,” Roach told BoxingScene.com following a Pacquiao training session this week at Roach’s Wild Card Boxing Club. “I mean, he was terrible. He didn’t do well at all. But if you look at each of his last three fights, he’s faded in each one. I’m not sure if it’s the biceps injury or whatever they’re crying about, but he hasn’t looked good in the three fights that I’ve seen and I do have his last seven fights on tape.”

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What part wasnt true everything I said in the post you replied to was factual, I made no claims just stated the time frame around his weight, Oscar Koed a MW the fight before Floyd he looked terrible the fight before Manny, the intensity and the power was worlds apart against Manny and was the worst case of a drained fighter Ive ever seen, at the weigh-in when Roach seen the IV marks he said it wont go 3 rounds.

Manny never ventured to 154 and Floyd really had no business there, I stand by my comment that 154 Oscar would have stopped Manny just way to big fight night at 165 lbs, Oscar was never a sloth like Margarito he was a very dangerous guy at 154, cant be compared to 98 version of Oscar at 147 as I said early I have my doubts Floyd could beat that Oscar but he might because of his brilliant defence, but Manny would be over whelmed by the size speed and power.

Hatton was a straight bum @ 147. Floyd beat him @147 got full credit for it too because he was prime and undefeated.

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Hatton was a straight bum @ 147. Floyd beat him @147 got full credit for it too because he was prime and undefeated.

Hatton didnt fight Floyd at 147 he weighed 153 and Floyd was 152 , Hatton was the exact same fight night weight he was when he fought KT and Castillo, maybe you should read Hattons book where he explains that he was 159 with Collazo and would never be that weight again he never was, where he says Floyd Is smaller than him, its quite a good read you should enlighten your empty head with some truth occasionally.

You are so ignorant to whats real in boxing youre a hype junkie fanboy that knows nothing of boxing thats why you have no answer to anything I can smack you around so easy .

You understand ALL common opponents of Manny and Floyd say Floyd is the best they fought, do you comprehend what that actually stands for lol.

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Freddie Roach must be a Manny hater because he thought exactly as I did of broken Thurman.

There are no second prizes you and the other re-tard have been exposed in this thread

read it carefully .

It wasn’t just that Josesito Lopez almost upset Thurman when he hurt the heavily favored fighter in the seventh round. Pacquiao’s trainer considered it a poor performance overall for the unbeaten WBA “super” world welterweight champion and questioned whether Thurman ever can regain the form that enabled him to defeat Danny Garcia and Shawn Porter before injuries interrupted his career.

“I thought I was watching a four-round fighter,” Roach told BoxingScene.com following a Pacquiao training session this week at Roach’s Wild Card Boxing Club. “I mean, he was terrible. He didn’t do well at all. But if you look at each of his last three fights, he’s faded in each one. I’m not sure if it’s the biceps injury or whatever they’re crying about, but he hasn’t looked good in the three fights that I’ve seen and I do have his last seven fights on tape.”

You must be desperate to pull up Roach quotes. A guy who would sell out his mom's for $5.

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You must be desperate to pull up Roach quotes. A guy who would sell out his mom's for $5.

Why would he say that about Thurman, maybe because its true.

Youre getting desperate lol, its obvious Thurman was not near the Thurman from years earlier, fckn OBVIOUS !

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Hatton didnt fight Floyd at 147 he weighed 153 and Floyd was 152 , Hatton was the exact same fight night weight he was when he fought KT and Castillo, maybe you should read Hattons book where he explains that he was 159 with Collazo and would never be that weight again he never was, where he says Floyd Is smaller than him, its quite a good read you should enlighten your empty head with some truth occasionally.

You are so ignorant to whats real in boxing youre a hype junkie fanboy that knows nothing of boxing thats why you have no answer to anything I can smack you around so easy .

You understand ALL common opponents of Manny and Floyd say Floyd is the best they fought, do you comprehend what that actually stands for lol.

Floyd fought Hatton at ww. It was for Floyd's ww title. Hatton was garbage above junior ww but was prime/undefeated.

Actually a prime undefeated Hatton is still Floyd's best win at welterweight. You probably think it's a prime Marcos Madonna

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Why did Margarito have trouble making 150 lbs, dont say he didnt I know he did.

Garcia that Margarito beat in Mexico is a C grade fighter, the best win on his career was probably Carson Jones , the 3 fights before Margarito all came off loses, the guy right before Margarito had 17 loses and lost 5 of his previous 6.

You cant be serious .

I agree that Medina was NG, but Garcia himself was a pretty good fighter. He was 23-2 before Margarito and a few fights back had a NC with Freddie Hernandez for a title. I remember Freddie he was a B+ fighter. He beat Luis Collazo about 10 years ago when he was good, KO'd a live DeMarcus Corley a few fights later, got a WBC title shot. and so forth. Went 10 fairly even rounds for a loss to Erislandy Lara. etc.