Klitschko-Lyakhovich in November?

[charlie31]

And by the way, Charlie is the guy who said no one here is on his level boxing knowledge wise, but is unable to tell us why.

I've seen Briggs in the gym, he is much more dedicated and focused than he has ever been. He was ready to face Wladimir Klitschko in November.

Oh really?? you get his aurograph??? i look pretty good hitten the mits too! SO WHAT!! ive seen Briggs n the RING!



you lost all cred with me! BRIGGS..LOL.

[Mr. Ryan]

Lol, I don't know if you would have enough time to find that out. He does have a pretty good and quick offense.

Yeah well I'm from Jersey, I have a gun

[Mr. Ryan]

Oh really?? you get his aurograph??? i look pretty good hitten the mits too! SO WHAT!! ive seen Briggs n the RING!



you lost all cred with me! BRIGGS..LOL.

The thing is that you're a 14 year old **** talker who knows doesn't know Muhammad Ali from Ali Baba. When you've been in boxing for the portion of your life as I have, you can see things in a fighter's gym performance that a casual fan like you cannot. And it really hurts me that you don't like me anymore, I really enjoyed having you kiss my ass

[Nautilus]

I don't see how Lyakhovich is a better boxer than Briggs, but I guess its true if you say so. Briggs is a quicker handed guy and while his beard is suspect, he brings the big punch that Lyakhovich doesn't have. I really don't think Lyakhovich can jab with Wladimir, which is the only way Lyakhovich would be able to get inside the reach and get to work. Briggs is a much more cagey fighter than Lyakhovich IMO.

I can only judge by objective data: We have not seen Briggs in a single fight against a top 20 guy recently... In contrast, Liakovich beat Guinn and Brewster, and hence is more desrving to face Wlad.


Here is Boxrec's ranking of 25 top fighters-- and I could not find Briggs in it !!!

1. ladimir Klitschko 30 936 1996 46-3-0

2 2 Nikolay Valuev 33 729 1993 44-0-0

3 25 John Ruiz 34 728 1992 41-6-1

4 17 Chris Byrd 36 657 1993 39-3-1

5 14 Serguei Lyakhovich 30 606 1998 23-1-0

6 5 Calvin Brock 31 566 2001 29-0-0

7 1 Oleg Maskaev 37 554 1993 33-5-0

8 3 James Toney 37 536 1988 69-4-3

9 11 Lamon Brewster 33 467 1996 33-3-0

10 1 Matt Skelton 39 466 2002 20-1-0

11 8 Samuel Peter 25 410 2001 26-1-0

12 5 Vladimir Virchis 33 355 1999 21-1-0

13 5 DaVarryl Williamson 38 354 2000 23-4-0

14 17 Hasim Rahman 33 353 1994 41-6-2

15 2 Ruslan Chagaev 27 353 1997 21-0-1

16 8 Tony Thompson 34 350 2000 28-1-0

17 24 Juan Carlos Gomez 33 348 1995 39-1-0

18 26 Sinan Samil Sam 32 326 2000 26-3-0

19 20 Danny Williams 33 325 1995 36-5-0

20 10 Jameel McCline 36 305 1995 38-6-3

21 11 Oliver McCall 41 303 1985 47-8-0

22 6 Sultan Ibragimov 31 301 2002 19-0-1

23 9 Eddie Chambers 24 300 2000 27-0-0

24 19 Ray Austin 35 290 1998 24-3-4

25 23 Luan Krasniqi

[!!Captain]

I can only judge by objective data: We have not seen Briggs in a single fight against a top 20 guy recently... In contrast, Liakovich beat Guinn and Brewster, and hence is more desrving to face Wlad.


Here is Boxrec's ranking of 25 top fighters-- and I could not find Briggs in it !!!

1. ladimir Klitschko 30 936 1996 46-3-0

2 2 Nikolay Valuev 33 729 1993 44-0-0

3 25 John Ruiz 34 728 1992 41-6-1

4 17 Chris Byrd 36 657 1993 39-3-1

5 14 Serguei Lyakhovich 30 606 1998 23-1-0

6 5 Calvin Brock 31 566 2001 29-0-0

7 1 Oleg Maskaev 37 554 1993 33-5-0

8 3 James Toney 37 536 1988 69-4-3

9 11 Lamon Brewster 33 467 1996 33-3-0

10 1 Matt Skelton 39 466 2002 20-1-0

11 8 Samuel Peter 25 410 2001 26-1-0

12 5 Vladimir Virchis 33 355 1999 21-1-0

13 5 DaVarryl Williamson 38 354 2000 23-4-0

14 17 Hasim Rahman 33 353 1994 41-6-2

15 2 Ruslan Chagaev 27 353 1997 21-0-1

16 8 Tony Thompson 34 350 2000 28-1-0

17 24 Juan Carlos Gomez 33 348 1995 39-1-0

18 26 Sinan Samil Sam 32 326 2000 26-3-0

19 20 Danny Williams 33 325 1995 36-5-0

20 10 Jameel McCline 36 305 1995 38-6-3

21 11 Oliver McCall 41 303 1985 47-8-0

22 6 Sultan Ibragimov 31 301 2002 19-0-1

23 9 Eddie Chambers 24 300 2000 27-0-0

24 19 Ray Austin 35 290 1998 24-3-4

25 23 Luan Krasniqi

Actually I tend to use The Ring's rankings:

HEAVYWEIGHTS
Weight Unlimited
Champ: Vacant This
week Last
Week Weeks
in
Ratings Fighter Record
1 1 65 WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO 46-3 (41)
2 2 2 OLEG MASKAEV 33-5 (26)
3 3 149 JAMES TONEY 69-4-3 (43)
4 4 21 SERGEI LIAKHOVICH 23-1 (14)
5 5 119 LAMON BREWSTER 33-3 (29)
6 6 284 JOHN RUIZ 41-6-1 (28)
7 8 68 CALVIN BROCK 29-0 (22)
8 9 68 SAMUEL PETER 26-1 (22)
9 10 36 NICOLAY VALUEV 44-0 (32)
10 2 127 HASIM RAHMAN 41-6-2 (33)

[JMCbulls]

i undertand where ur coming from, wanting to see the best and most exciting fights, but those fights arent necesarly best for the sport. an unified HW division could clear up a lot of debate throughout the HW division, while giving boxing another recognizable face to the public.

[neils7147933]

I also like the idea of Shannon Briggs not getting a title shot until he fights a Top 30 opponent. Padding a record should not improve your ranking...

[Nautilus]

The thing is that you're a 14 year old **** talker who knows doesn't know Muhammad Ali from Ali Baba.

I am sure the great Russian mathematician-historian Fomenko would claim that Muhammad Ali and Ali Babba were the same person.

[Mr. Ryan]

I can only judge by objective data: We have not seen Briggs in a single fight against a top 20 guy recently... In contrast, Liakovich beat Guinn and Brewster, and hence is more desrving to face Wlad.

You have a valid point in that Lyakhovich earned his shot at Wladimir. However, Briggs' style and ability is more of a foil for Wladimir than is Lyakhovich. We are only beginning to discover how average Lyakhovich is physically, but mentally he is as tough as they come.

[boxing fan]

I am sure the great Russian mathematician-historian Fomenko would claim that Muhammad Ali and Ali Babba were the same person.

Are you Russian?