Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte Would Be Massive Fight, Says Hearn

[leeroy84]

He lost to the best, and is still top 3.
So yes hes still has some power in choosing opponents.
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It'll be Martin next to prove the magnitude of Wilders "power" in choosing opponents.

[davefromvancouv]

This is all a joke .

It was Wilder claiming he wasn’t ready in April because of an injury . That’s nine months before any postponement. And Wilder said he wouldn’t be ready until the end of 2020, he had this planned all along anyway . He was stalling Furys career .

Wilder was only available when Fury announced he was moving on ,team Wilder have mastered the stay silent game then move in like they are being ducked . Ha

https://3kingsboxing.com/wilder-nursing-bicep-injury/

Level playing field? This is why your suggestion that they can settle their differences in the rings is BS. Fury could beat him in a third fight and Wilder would trot out all his excuses again, because he is deluded.

Newsflash: his water bottle was not tampered with. The gloves were checked by a commission rep and Wilder's own team observed them being put on. His ring costume was his own idea and 40lbs for a ring walks shouldn't sap a grown man's strength. The ref if anything did Wilder a favour by docking a point from Fury. Breland probably saved him from lasting damage.

They haven't yet met on a level playing field because both fights have been in Deontay Wilder's home country with American referees both times.

As far as who wants to fight who, I will grant you it is possible Wilder still wants the fight. Arum's team obviously feel something has lapsed in the contract.

Ah, so you know how Wilder felt on that night, right? That's good to know.

Because Wilder clearly explained that he felt weak, so weak that even his costume felt heavy. But that wasn't the narrative that was spread by the mainstream media, was it? They twisted it to say that the COSTUME made him feel weak. See the difference?

Also, when have you ever seen massive power from Fury? So much so that his opponent is spitting blood after the first round? With that kind of newfound power, you would think that he'd be itching to display it again in a quick and dirty fight, right? But he's doing the EXACT opposite, bending over backwards to avoid fighting Wilder at all costs! It's actually Wilder who's pushing for the third fight, refusing to be paid off until all legal avenues have been exhausted.

Fury's actions are telling you EVERYTHING. You just have to open your eyes...

[Monty Fisto]

Ah, so you know how Wilder felt on that night, right? That's good to know.

Because Wilder clearly explained that he felt weak, so weak that even his costume felt heavy. But that wasn't the narrative that was spread by the mainstream media, was it? They twisted it to say that the COSTUME made him feel weak. See the difference?

Also, when have you ever seen massive power from Fury? So much so that his opponent is spitting blood after the first round? With that kind of newfound power, you would think that he'd be itching to display it again in a quick and dirty fight, right? But he's doing the EXACT opposite, bending over backwards to avoid fighting Wilder at all costs! It's actually Wilder who's pushing for the third fight, refusing to be paid off until all legal avenues have been exhausted.

Fury's actions are telling you EVERYTHING. You just have to open your eyes...

Verbatim quotes from Wilder; "He didn't hurt me at all, but the simple fact is my uniform was way too heavy for me."

And

"I knew I didn't have the legs because of my uniform."

So, yeah, he blamed the uniform.

As for the newfound power: Fury is a big unit. A 273 pound, 6'9" man with boxing gloves hitting once he's set his feet is going to do some damage. Not too long before the Wilder rematch we saw Fury busting up Tom Schwarz's face within a few minutes. Fury was 17 pounds heavier in the rematch. You don't have to look much beyond that for an explanation of how he was throwing more weight into the punches.

And there'as no mystery about it. First round of the rematch, Wilder was leaden footed, and failed to block or slip several shots. Hence they connected flush with his face. He is a human. He took damage.

[davefromvancouv]

Verbatim quotes from Wilder; "He didn't hurt me at all, but the simple fact is my uniform was way too heavy for me."

And

"I knew I didn't have the legs because of my uniform."

So, yeah, he blamed the uniform.

As for the newfound power: Fury is a big unit. A 273 pound, 6'9" man with boxing gloves hitting once he's set his feet is going to do some damage. Not too long before the Wilder rematch we saw Fury busting up Tom Schwarz's face within a few minutes. Fury was 17 pounds heavier in the rematch. You don't have to look much beyond that for an explanation of how he was throwing more weight into the punches.

And there'as no mystery about it. First round of the rematch, Wilder was leaden footed, and failed to block or slip several shots. Hence they connected flush with his face. He is a human. He took damage.

So beat him up worst than you did the last time. You're a fighter and now you're a beast. If he insulted your honor, your pride and your culture, take it out on him in the ring.

But he's not doing that, is he? He's doing the exact opposite. His promoter and his network delayed the fight. He even wanted to beat up somebody else but he's contractually obligated to fight Wilder and now, he's paying lawyer fees to get out of it.

Think.

[Dle]

Is Hearn promoting Wilder now? Then he need to shut the frank up! Trying to intervene on Wilder’s rematch with Fury

[Monty Fisto]

So beat him up worst than you did the last time. You're a fighter and now you're a beast. If he insulted your honor, your pride and your culture, take it out on him in the ring.

But he's not doing that, is he? He's doing the exact opposite. His promoter and his network delayed the fight. He even wanted to beat up somebody else but he's contractually obligated to fight Wilder and now, he's paying lawyer fees to get out of it.

Think.

He's either contractually obligated to fight him or he's not.

We all agree he once was contractually obligated to, but the question is whether he still is contractually obligated.

Wilder and Finkel think he is. Fury and Arum think he's not.

Arbitration will decide. The lawyers are just there as part of the making the case for each argument. There we will get better insight as to whether it was a case of Arum delaying to try and weasel out of
the clause or if Wilder simply failed to enforce his right when it was still valid.

Clearly Fury and Arum prefer to fight Joshua than Wilder now. Your interpretation of why is not neccessarily valid though.

The fact that they prefer a more lucrative Joshua fight for the undisputed vs a re-tread with Wilder for no significant gain is most likely to do with money than anything else.

Wilder brings little to the table at this point except sour g****s and the opportunity to fight Joshua for all four belts is not something that comes along often nor is it going to be available for anything other than a narrow window.

[davefromvancouv]

He's either contractually obligated to fight him or he's not.

We all agree he once was contractually obligated to, but the question is whether he still is contractually obligated.

Wilder and Finkel think he is. Fury and Arum think he's not.

Arbitration will decide. The lawyers are just there as part of the making the case for each argument. There we will get better insight as to whether it was a case of Arum delaying to try and weasel out of
the clause or if Wilder simply failed to enforce his right when it was still valid.

Clearly Fury and Arum prefer to fight Joshua than Wilder now. Your interpretation of why is not neccessarily valid though.

The fact that they prefer a more lucrative Joshua fight for the undisputed vs a re-tread with Wilder for no significant gain is most likely to do with money than anything else.

Wilder brings little to the table at this point except sour g****s and the opportunity to fight Joshua for all four belts is not something that comes along often nor is it going to be available for anything other than a narrow window.

Arbitration can take half a year or longer. If the contract is deemed to still be valid and Fury chooses to fight Joshua, he could essentially be working for Wilder.

So the best option for the beast that is Fury is to fight Wilder, keep his money and make an even bigger killing with Joshua.

Easy work right?

[Zonkmeister]

For the much-vaunted STFU belt, of course.

I'd watch that, could be a good fight. Whyte can **** but has holey defense, so I think he'd try to put pressure on Wilder who'd have ample opportunities to try to land one of his zingers, so it should be fun.

[care4ameatball]

This could be a good fight, I think. I do want to see Povetkin fight Whyte again though.

[LA_2_Vegas]

It would be a good fight if Whyte wins - Whyte could probably serve to refocus Wilder, he has been all over the place since Fury.


That Povetkin-Wilder fight that was scheduled years ago never got to happen; that would also be something I'd be interested in as well. Povetkin somehow pulls off those 3 wins, what a cap to his career. Really not sure how likely a Povetkin fight would be though, he'd probably have a path for a bigger fight if he wins the rematch