Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte Would Be Massive Fight, Says Hearn

[davefromvancouv]

We'll have to agree to disagree about Wilder.

Let's go over some of the points you raise though.

First up, the bit about the hall of fame. "He's already a hall of famer whether you like it or not'. Whether he is already in there or not is a matter of fact. And unfortunately he is not 'already' in there. Maybe one day. If you meant 'one day he will be', your use of the word 'already' is where you've let yourself down.

Next up: your claim that Fury needs to be a man of his word and give Wilder an opportunity. He's given his word -- but it's the other way. That is, he gave his word he'll never give Wilder a shot after he called him a cheat. Does he need to give him a shot? The legal promise was a clause that camp Fury says has expired. Such a clause cannot reasonably be expected to last forever, so I think we'll let the arbitrator decide that one.

Next point: a unique event. A genuinely unique event would be to fight Joshua for all 4 major HW belts. That has never happened before -- so it's the very definition of unique. Controversy is a subjective thing. There are many people -- myself included -- who see no controversy in his victory over Klitschko. I'm sure you disagree. And I'm sure if they fought again and Fury beat Wilder again there are zealots who would find something to complain about. Case in point: February 2020 Wilder fights an awful fight, Fury smack him around for 7 straight rounds and the fight is stopped by Wilder's own people. There is no controversy there apart from that manufactured by the losing side.

As for going out of his way to avoid a rematch -- they had a rematch and it was decisive.

My opinion -- and you can come back in the future and quote me on this -- if Wilder doesn't change a thing, it is the beginning of the end for him. If he goes on to scale new heights, I will be happy to eat my words. But I think not.

Maybe you don't know that Fury was reported to have PEDs in his system prior to the Klitschko fight. Maybe you do.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jun/26/tyson-fury-heavyweight-champion-baffled-drugs-test-nandrolone

Doesn't matter. The official result was never changed and Fury was able to keep the belts and avoid the rematch.

Now, Wilder has accused Fury of manipulating his gloves, which is a known issue with the horsehair gloves Fury used. Maybe you don't know about the Everlast MX gloves. Maybe you do.

Doesn't matter. The official result is that Fury beat Wilder in the rematch and is now doing everything he can to avoid a third fight. My hope is that the arbitrator decides he can't do that, or at the very least, he is penalized substantially for refusing to honor his legal obligation. It was an unfair fight and Wilder deserves a chance to set the record straight.

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Maybe you don't know that Fury was reported to have PEDs in his system prior to the Klitschko fight. Maybe you do.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jun/26/tyson-fury-heavyweight-champion-baffled-drugs-test-nandrolone

Doesn't matter. The official result was never changed and Fury was able to keep the belts and avoid the rematch.

Now, Wilder has accused Fury of manipulating his gloves, which is a known issue with the horsehair gloves Fury used. Maybe you don't know about the Everlast MX gloves. Maybe you do.

Doesn't matter. The official result is that Fury beat Wilder in the rematch and is now doing everything he can to avoid a third fight. My hope is that the arbitrator decides he can't do that, or at the very least, he is penalized substantially for refusing to honor his legal obligation. It was an unfair fight and Wilder deserves a chance to set the record straight.

That’s the thing what you hope happens is not what can happen in a real lawsuit when the evidence is actually going to hurt Wilder and if they do use his own words and evidence that he went on social media months into the last fight after the contract expired it’s going to be laughed off the entire proceedings .

There is no legal obligation off an expired contract that team Wilder insisted on .

The third fight is terminated ,what’s being reconciled is possible compensation for Wilder , not a third fight .

[davefromvancouv]

That’s the thing what you hope happens is not what can happen in a real lawsuit when the evidence is actually going to hurt Wilder and if they do use his own words and evidence that he went on social media months into the last fight after the contract expired it’s going to be laughed off the entire proceedings .

There is no legal obligation off an expired contract that team Wilder insisted on .

The third fight is terminated ,what’s being reconciled is possible compensation for Wilder , not a third fight .

If Wilder wins the arbitration case, the compensation will make Fury feel as if he is working for Wilder. Essentially, the "expired contract" will be made to feel REAL.

And I'm not sure Fury wants to "feel" like a work boy for anybody...

So I suspect that if Wilder wins, Fury retires. Again.

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If Wilder wins the arbitration case, the compensation will make Fury feel as if he is working for Wilder. Essentially, the "expired contract" will be made to feel REAL.

And I'm not sure Fury wants to "feel" like a work boy for anybody...

So I suspect that if Wilder wins, Fury retires. Again.

Fury will be fighting A.J twice this year either way , so not sure what drugs you are on ?

Wilder will likely face Whyte or Povetkin winner for the mandatory spot if he doesn’t completely lose his mind and WBC will bend it’s rules for him even though he slandered them as well .

[davefromvancouv]

Fury will be fighting A.J twice this year either way , so not sure what drugs you are on ?

Wilder will likely face Whyte or Povetkin winner for the mandatory spot if he doesn’t completely lose his mind and WBC will bend it’s rules for him even though he slandered them as well .

We'll know in 6 months.

If Wilder wins the arbitration case and Fury STILL chooses not to fight Wilder, Wilder will be substantially paid by Fury. Fury will essentially be Wilder's work boy for Fury's next fight,