Comments Thread For: Arum: Fury Told Me He Will Never Fight Wilder For a Third Time

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  • MastaBlasta
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    #91
    Originally posted by Toffee
    If there was genuine controversy then I could understand running it back.

    But there isn't. No-one believes it. This is a desperate man begging for one last payday and prepared to make up nonsense about anyone in sight to get it. My moral code says you don't reward that behaviour.
    Wilder will get good paydays fighting anyone. Fury clearing "his" insulted name would seem to trump anyone else's moral code excuses. Do you think Ali would run from clearing his name? Marciano? Dempsey? even Klitschko?

    Per Wilder: after a beating like that (gloves or whatever), does not pressing to fight the supposed best HW in the world not show something admirable in his complex character? He's "begging", arguing, fighting to fight the world's best who "demolished" him. Who runs to that for more?

    Wilder obviously BELIEVES something was wrong ... and wants to prove it in the ring. He's not asking for a ruling that there was cheating ... he wants the contracted 3rd fight to prove there was an aberration. He wants to FIGHT to clear it up! Surely in the sport of BOXING this is an acceptable way to settle it.

    I don't know if Wilder will ever beat Fury. But there are/were issues with the 2nd fight in many peoples eyes (no matter how any one of us view it). Thus it's controversial. A 3rd fight was contracted. Whether injury or an unprecendented pandemic caused the delays ... it's still very possible to settle all of it IN THE RING. This is Boxing .... it couldn't be more appropriate.

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    • shza
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      #92
      Wilder needs to fight SOMEBODY, anybody at this point.

      Disappearing for a year after a tough loss is not a good look.

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      • DaNeutral.
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        #93
        Originally posted by Oldskoolg
        Ok, again, sounds like the wbc title will be vacant then
        Why? What has the WBC got to do with anything? Only way the WBC gets involved is if Wilder takes Fury to court for cheating in the fight and that clearly isnt happening. From what the WBC have been saying they are all for the Fury Joshua undisputed fight.

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        • DaNeutral.
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          #94
          Originally posted by champion4ever
          It's because Fury knows in his heart that he can't defeat Deontay Wilder unless he cheats. Hell, I don't blame him. He dodged a loss the last time and he fears he won't be as lucky the next time. The man has a lot of fear in him.
          So Fury cheated?

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          • Toffee
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            #95
            Originally posted by MastaBlasta
            Wilder will get good paydays fighting anyone. Fury clearing "his" insulted name would seem to trump anyone else's moral code excuses. Do you think Ali would run from clearing his name? Marciano? Dempsey? even Klitschko?

            Per Wilder: after a beating like that (gloves or whatever), does not pressing to fight the supposed best HW in the world not show something admirable in his complex character? He's "begging", arguing, fighting to fight the world's best who "demolished" him. Who runs to that for more?

            Wilder obviously BELIEVES something was wrong ... and wants to prove it in the ring. He's not asking for a ruling that there was cheating ... he wants the contracted 3rd fight to prove there was an aberration. He wants to FIGHT to clear it up! Surely in the sport of BOXING this is an acceptable way to settle it.

            I don't know if Wilder will ever beat Fury. But there are/were issues with the 2nd fight in many peoples eyes (no matter how any one of us view it). Thus it's controversial. A 3rd fight was contracted. Whether injury or an unprecendented pandemic caused the delays ... it's still very possible to settle all of it IN THE RING. This is Boxing .... it couldn't be more appropriate.
            Wilder can make good money, but nowhere near what would be at stake for a title fight. And he probably won't be getting a title fight again unless he can enforce a trilogy or convince someone to take a voluntary.

            Fury doesn't need to clear his name with regards to egg weights, tainted water etc. Nandrolone maybe, but not for imaginary egg weights.

            It's desperation from Wilder, not bravery or warrior spirit. He's willing to take down anyone around him to get a big payout. Nah, sit him on the outside looking in. If he wants a title fight he'll have to do what he didn't do when he was a champion - fight live opponents on a regular basis and earn a standing he deserves.

            He's still got time, but needs to start now. It looks like he's going to waste the end of his career trying to take shortcuts.

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            • ShoulderRoll
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              #96
              Originally posted by REDEEMER
              They don’t do that when an existing contract is agreed to and signed so stop lying, talks of mediation only arises when a contract is being disputed , you didn’t even know a Mediator cannot force a decision so just go away . This topic is well beyond what you can comprehend, the only one who speculated here was you with added made up posts like the last one . Ha
              If a contract is being disputed you take it to court. Unless an agreement was made beforehand to be bound by mediation instead.

              When you said you were "in the legal field" did you really mean that you were a janitor for a law firm's office?

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              • War Room
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                #97
                Nobody wants to see a brittle man with a dented skull get dragged through the mud by a *****. I mean, how many times you got to beat someone before the gold loses it's lustre?

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                • El_Mero
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                  #98
                  I mean, technically hes up 2-0. Dont nobody besides Wilders fanboys want to see a 3rd fight.....well there are those into torture, humiliation and death, so theres that.

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                  • REDEEMER
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    If a contract is being disputed you take it to court. Unless an agreement was made beforehand to be bound by mediation instead.

                    When you said you were "in the legal field" did you really mean that you were a janitor for a law firm's office?
                    You just keep making stuff up and talking in circles ,now your just switching around what you previously stated . You are one of the worst liars on the forum ,no one believes most what you say it’s obvious you like to hear yourself or see yourself post with no logic . This was your quote .

                    “Before entering into a contract people can agree to settle any disputes that may arise through mediation”

                    No they can’t that is not how it works .

                    Mediation isn’t bound to a contract ,a party can decline mediation after just one meeting and go straight to a court judge if they think there case is strong enough if that’s what they want etc...

                    Education look that word up .


                    You don’t agree to any mediation beforehand when a contract is made because mediation is a separate thing that you have to file for and section to be filed if it happens not in a contract ,it’s just standard procedure of the law that any party can do . Please educate yourself if that’s possible ?

                    Here I’ll make it simple for you .

                    “Because mediation is voluntary, a person cannot be required to use mediation to resolve their dispute. All of the parties must agree to use mediation to try to resolve the dispute”

                    “Even when the parties have agreed to use mediation, it remains voluntary. The parties are free to decide at any time not to continue”

                    Do you know what voluntary is ?

                    Do you know what is bound or binding ?

                    Good I’m glad we cleared this up.
                    Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-16-2021, 12:03 AM.

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                    • Aware
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by El_Mero
                      I mean, technically hes up 2-0. Dont nobody besides Wilders fanboys want to see a 3rd fight.....well there are those into torture, humiliation and death, so theres that.
                      Your use of the word "technically" is incorrect here.

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