Comments Thread For: Arum: Fury Told Me He Will Never Fight Wilder For a Third Time

[BrometheusBob.]

And he really doesn't need to either. Wilder would need to put himself back into a position where people would truly care about this fight

[leeroy84]

Anyone heard the Kevin Barry interview recently?

Apparently Wilder fired Finkle and the Fury 3 contract was left on Shirleys desk to gather dust.

Hilarious if true, and would explain why Wilder hasn't had a common sense filter for a while.

[The plunger man]

It's not Wilder's fault that a pandemic shut down the world last year.

well Joshua boxed in December , Spence , whyte , povetkin , lomachenko all boxed the last quarter of 2020...you miss the point fury was willing to fight wilder in December and was calling out wilder to get some dialogue going but wilder remained awol and silent and never said a ****y bird until fury said he had moved on....so as I said blame wilder for it not fury.
Wilder only started chirping when he knew fury had moved on.
Look at the timeline for proof.
Wilder has now missed his chance and both fury and Joshua are focused on meeting which the world wants to see except but hurt wilder fans who won’t accept it wilder fault

[Thejetpack]

Y'all funny.

99% of these comments are so emotionally fueled that they lack any intellectual depth. Despite how you feel about Wilder or Fury the facts here are simple.

Everyone saying Fury isn't obligated to fight are ******ed.. or simply just hate Wilder. Imagine if after the first fight Wilder neglected to agree to a rematch everyone would say he's running or scared. Now that the shoe is on the other foot people are just rallying behind Fury cause they dislike Wilder. But imagine if Wilder had as many PED allegations brought against him.. imagine him not being able to return to his own home country to fight because of his past of using PEDs. Would you really behind him like yall do Fury?

Another question where were all you Fury fans before Wilder agreed to fight him? Honestly most people said Wilder was cherry picking but now all of a sudden yall call him one of the greatest ever. How can beating a "bum" give you that kinda recognition? How can his first fight with Wilder break all type of promotion if Wilder is so unpopular and such a scrub?

Lastly despite all the allegations about cheating how can yall discredit Wilder so heavily when he actually fought Fury when AJ wouldn't even give him a chance? And he went out like champ. Mike Tyson got his ass whooped.. bit a guys ear off and even said he broke his back in a fight while he standing up. Yet yall call him a legend and respect him for the good he did even tho he never beat Lewis or Holyfield. Yall say Wilder's record is so trash but he KO'd Ortiz twice. The same Ortiz who Whyte ducked and Ruiz just ducked. Yall just hate on the man. You don't have to disrespect his legacy just to praise Fury.

[ShoulderRoll]

well Joshua boxed in December , Spence , whyte , povetkin , lomachenko all boxed the last quarter of 2020...you miss the point fury was willing to fight wilder in December and was calling out wilder to get some dialogue going but wilder remained awol and silent and never said a ****y bird until fury said he had moved on....so as I said blame wilder for it not fury.
Wilder only started chirping when he knew fury had moved on.
Look at the timeline for proof.
Wilder has now missed his chance and both fury and Joshua are focused on meeting which the world wants to see except but hurt wilder fans who won’t accept it wilder fault

You don't get any say on if he missed his chance or not. That's up to the contract and what gets decided in mediation or arbitration.

Assuming court actions are not in the picture.

[FeelMikePayne]

So does this mean Wilder will finally show proof of Fury’s cheating because I was told the reason he hasn’t is because he wants his revenge in the ring but now that’s not happening he can finally show his proof of cheating and get his belt and his the loss stripped from his record right?

[The plunger man]

You don't get any say on if he missed his chance or not. That's up to the contract and what gets decided in mediation or arbitration.

Assuming court actions are not in the picture.

that’s fine and nor do you get to say who fury fights next...if arum and fury says the wilder fight contract has expired then it’s expired so let’s see what the courts say...it works both ways fella

[Ray*]

I’m obviously not privy to the contract but it’s likely that there is an ADR clause in the contract. That would mean that either party has to go through a process of ADR (mediation) before they can litigate (either through bringing a civil suit or going through a binding arbitration procedure).

This explains why they’re bothering to sit through a mediation process in the first place which was never going to resolve anything.

I still don’t think Wilder has a case, mind you. I’m sure the rematch clause would have included an express time limit which has expired and even if not there is the “reasonable time” argument referred to by REDEEMER, above.

Show me that ADR in the contract..... since you are close to the whole thing.

[Ray*]

Contracts include the steps that need to be taken in the event that one party believes the contract has been breached. I've never seen a boxing contract, but mediation would be a pretty common last step in other forms of contract.

If Wilder is going to take Fury to court I think it would look better if they could demonstrate that they had tried to resolve through mediation prior to going to the courts.

Arum's comments are interesting. I'm wondering if he is throwing out there that if Wilder sues Fury, then Fury will counterclaim based on Wilder's comments.

Would love to have a read of the contract.

I would wait for that lawsuit from Team Wilder then.

[El_Mero]

Your use of the word "technically" is incorrect here.

Call it what u want, but imo, and many others including ringside observers, boxing analysts and commentators, Fury was robbed of a win in the first fight