How can people seriously believe Pacquiao is greater than Floyd

[The Big Dunn]

this is something unfinished for me.. and i really doubt it will happen again since they are both old now. so i cannot conclude who is better between them. but i'm leaning towards pac with no hate on floyd since pac is dominant with their common opponents. more aggressive and fight the best.

It's unfinished for you because you like Manny. That is also why you are leaning on Manny.

Common opponents argument is interesting. Floyd beat ODH, Shane, Hatton before Manny did. Manny beat Cotto and JMM before Floyd did. Floyd has a clear win over JMM. Were any of Manny's wins over JMM clear?

It is also hard because Floyd has wins over Canelo and Manny. Manny doesn't have any win as good. I would say his win over Barrera would be the 3rd best win if we are ranking the wins.

Manny is more aggressive, but Floyd was able to be dominant fighting both aggressively/offensively, and defensively, in a way Manny couldn't.

[The Big Dunn]

Did some auditing on how accomplished the fighters Pac & Floyd beat (on paper) at the time they fought them by number of world title scalps on their resume:

Pac:
Dela Hoya - 24
Morales - 17, 17 (rematch)
Barrera - 16, 21 (rematch)
Mosley - 15
Cotto - 9
Margarito - 10
Bradley - 9, 11 (rematch)
Larios - 8
Marquez - 6, 9 (rematch)
Ledwaba - 6
Broner - 6
Thurman - 3
Hatton - 3
Sasakul - 3
Julio - 3
Diaz - 1
Clottey - 1
Algieri - 1
Vargas - 1

Floyd:
Dela Hoya - 24
Pacquiao - 15
Mosley - 15
Cotto - 11
Judah - 9
Marquez - 7
Canelo - 7
Berto - 7
Gatti - 6
Guerrero - 5
Hernandez - 4
Corrales - 4
Castillo - 3, 3 (rematch)
Hatton - 3
Corley - 3
Maidana - 2, 2 (rematch)
Baldomir - 2
Vargas - 1
Mitchell - 1
Ortiz - 1


Pac is greater than Floyd

Why are you giving Manny credit for fights he lost?

[blowblow]

It's unfinished for you because you like Manny. That is also why you are leaning on Manny.

Common opponents argument is interesting. Floyd beat ODH, Shane, Hatton before Manny did. Manny beat Cotto and JMM before Floyd did. Floyd has a clear win over JMM. Were any of Manny's wins over JMM clear?

It is also hard because Floyd has wins over Canelo and Manny. Manny doesn't have any win as good. I would say his win over Barrera would be the 3rd best win if we are ranking the wins.

Manny is more aggressive, but Floyd was able to be dominant fighting both aggressively/offensively, and defensively, in a way Manny couldn't.

i don't have to argue with you since you love floyd as well. bottomline is the rematch should happen back then.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd's pops said on national tv that he thought Oscar beat him.

Floyd was too scared to make a fight with Manny in 2010, and most definitely a rematch could have been made, due to how inconclusive it was.

Floyd Boys will definitely gloat over Floyd barely outpointing Manny in an inconclusive Floyd clinch-a-thon though.

Oh yeah when he was at a point where him and Floyd weren't speaking.

Manny refused to fight then so its him that was clearly scared.

You and other Manny slurpers STILL crying over the loss doesn't mean Floyd fans are gloating. If we do gloat, we earned the right to do so. Had Manny won, you'd be doing same.

[The Big Dunn]

i don't have to argue with you since you love floyd as well. bottomline is the rematch should happen back then.

You can't argue hard facts. No rematch was warranted. No fight with a 9-3 scorecard deserves a rematch.

[blowblow]

You can't argue hard facts. No rematch was warranted. No fight with a 9-3 scorecard deserves a rematch.

9-3 is too generous.. i've watched the fight in slowmo and i never thought floyd will win.. actually it's a gift win.

[The Big Dunn]

9-3 is too generous.. i've watched the fight in slowmo and i never thought floyd will win.. actually it's a gift win.

Slow motion video. HAHAHAHA LMFAO.

[blowblow]

Slow motion video. HAHAHAHA LMFAO.

yeah every punches landed. even the one landed into the thin air counts.

[RuleOfTheSpear]

Why are you giving Manny credit for fights he lost?

How so?

Because I didn't.

If I did, I would've included the first win with Bradley. Or put Floyd's scalp in there too. In my opinion, Pac won those, but on paper, he lost.

I audited based on their resumè (on paper).

[djtmal]

Oh yeah when he was at a point where him and Floyd weren't speaking.

Manny refused to fight then so its him that was clearly scared.

You and other Manny slurpers STILL crying over the loss doesn't mean Floyd fans are gloating. If we do gloat, we earned the right to do so. Had Manny won, you'd be doing same.

His pops said you had to give it to Oscar because Oscar threw more and touched him more according to the points system.

Floyd ducked out of the welterweight division for two years, pretty much avoiding all of the ww division when they were in their prime, then ducked Manny for 6 years. Fought a who's who list of c list guys you never heard from again. Ortiz, Guerrero, Berto, Marcos Madonna twice, etc.