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  • kushking
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    #81
    Originally posted by Larry_Rushmore
    So are you trying to argue the loss should not count and Canelo is really undefeated?
    NO, I'm arguing that had Floyd beat Canelo at 154 the win would be much more impressive & would've given Floyd much more bragging rights. And I'm arguing that Floyds own words put an asterisk on it

    I think you know I'm not a Floyd hater...(I always say of course hes among the best ever)
    Last edited by kushking; 01-01-2021, 03:44 PM.

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      #82
      Originally posted by djtmal
      In other words, because it was Floyd it don't count.
      In other words look at the fights instead of weighins , but a fool like you would not be able to decipher that you lack of knowledge makes so your bias cannot see anything.

      Drained fighters = no resistance, no stamina, no snap, get stopped.

      Non drained fighters = good stamina, snap on punches, dont get stopped and fight a full 12 rounds.

      Look at the dame fights !

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      • kushking
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        #83
        Originally posted by Roadblock
        In other words look at the fights instead of weighins , but a fool like you would not be able to decipher that you lack of knowledge makes so your bias cannot see anything.

        Drained fighters = no resistance, no stamina, no snap, get stopped.

        Non drained fighters = good stamina, snap on punches, dont get stopped and fight a full 12 rounds.

        Look at the dame fights !
        Not all drained fighters get stopped,but I agree look at the fight

        Canelo vs Floyd= no stamina,no snap on punches & got schooled,but didn't get stopped because hes an iron jaw & Floyd isn't a powerful puncher.

        Chavez jr the bum vs Canelo looked the same condition as Canelo vs Floyd & it went similar (except bum jr would've been the same at any weight)

        Compare Canelo vs Floyd to Canelo vs Lara & Trout. You'll see a HUGE difference in snap,stamina etc.

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          #84
          Originally posted by kushking
          NO, I'm arguing that had Floyd beat Canelo at 154 the win would be much more impressive & would've given Floyd much more bragging rights. And I'm arguing that Floyds own words put an asterisk on it

          I think you know I'm not a Floyd hater...(I always say of course hes among the best ever)
          Lmfao.

          You keep saying that ****** **** but then that means all of Canelos most profile fights are asterisks.

          Too ****** to see you own double standards.

          Between

          Weight clauses
          Short Camps
          Favorable scorecards
          PEDS

          How many if Canelos best wins were clean?

          Im not even a Canelo hater. I just don't suck his nuts like you because you're the same color. I can say easily Canelo is a great talent and probably one of the best of this generation.

          His biggest problem? He doesn't win clean and there is ALWAYS controversy.

          Oh if GGG was such a ****ing bum Canelo would have nuked him and you want to pretend like that happened when it didn't. Even the official score cards didn't even share the same reality.

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            #85
            Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw
            Lmfao.

            You keep saying that ****** **** but then that means all of Canelos most profile fights are asterisks.

            Too ****** to see you own double standards.

            Between

            Weight clauses
            Short Camps
            Favorable scorecards
            PEDS

            How many if Canelos best wins were clean?

            Im not even a Canelo hater. I just don't suck his nuts like you because you're the same color. I can say easily Canelo is a great talent and probably one of the best of this generation.

            His biggest problem? He doesn't win clean and there is ALWAYS controversy.

            Oh if GGG was such a ****ing bum Canelo would have nuked him and you want to pretend like that happened when it didn't. Even the official score cards didn't even share the same reality.
            You keep spouting off but say nothing of consequence, for every criticism of Canelo you can criticize every fighter including floyd,so you're saying Floyd doesn't win clean & theres always controversy vs Ortiz,JMM,Canelo,Castillo,Maidana,& Mcgimper?

            After all by your same standards even pac had an excuse in injury,see how ****** you sound?(of course not)

            Having close fights isn't the same thing as forcing another champ down in weight. For that matter Floyd vs Fishnets was just as close
            Last edited by kushking; 01-01-2021, 04:14 PM.

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #86
              These guys expose themselves. Lol. If they say Canelo could easily make 152 then how come Floyd couldn’t make 144lbs against Marquez? You mean Floyd wouldn’t be able to cut 3lbs of water from his usual 147? Lol so Floyd changed the contract last minute to 146lbs. 144 to 146 is 2lbs innit. “But but Floyd can make 147 easy”. It surprises me fans have no idea what it is to cut weight. They never been in a gym. Go to the gym. Weigh yourself before a hard workout. Sweat, go hard, then hit the scale before hitting the shower. See if you lost 1lb at least. That’s including drinking water while grinding hard

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                #87
                Originally posted by To Be Frank Doe
                These guys expose themselves. Lol. If they say Canelo could easily make 152 then how come Floyd couldn’t make 144lbs against Marquez? You mean Floyd wouldn’t be able to cut 3lbs of water from his usual 147? Lol so Floyd changed the contract last minute to 146lbs. 144 to 146 is 2lbs innit. “But but Floyd can make 147 easy”. It surprises me fans have no idea what it is to cut weight. They never been in a gym. Go to the gym. Weigh yourself before a hard workout. Sweat, go hard, then hit the scale before hitting the shower. See if you lost 1lb at least. That’s including drinking water while grinding hard
                Sounds good but its not how it works at the highest level with ultra athletes, that last pound with only hours to go can be painful to lose without it hurting you.

                So much depends on the process where you started, a guy that hasnt made weight in 2 yrs might think he can do easy what he did 2yrs early only to find that its not moving over the last few hours.

                Ive trained and boxed and made weight, and Ive trained race dogs and pit dogs I know a lot about how weight works.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by kushking
                  Not all drained fighters get stopped,but I agree look at the fight

                  Canelo vs Floyd= no stamina,no snap on punches & got schooled,but didn't get stopped because hes an iron jaw & Floyd isn't a powerful puncher.

                  Chavez jr the bum vs Canelo looked the same condition as Canelo vs Floyd & it went similar (except bum jr would've been the same at any weight)

                  Compare Canelo vs Floyd to Canelo vs Lara & Trout. You'll see a HUGE difference in snap,stamina etc.
                  Thats BS , Canelo had more endurance than his previous fights had plenty of snap on his punches and fought a solid 12 rounds.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Roadblock
                    Sounds good but its not how it works at the highest level with ultra athletes, that last pound with only hours to go can be painful to lose without it hurting you.

                    So much depends on the process where you started, a guy that hasnt made weight in 2 yrs might think he can do easy what he did 2yrs early only to find that its not moving over the last few hours.

                    Ive trained and boxed and made weight, and Ive trained race dogs and pit dogs I know a lot about how weight works.
                    Making weight is calibration from camp to fight week stability to insure you make the scale. Fighters are fluctuating on fight week carefully. These is usually reserved for guys whom gain 10lbs+. The less rehydration in weight means you’re not hurting your body, and it also means you have the flexibility to lose weigh too just like any other combat sportsmen to HIT SAUNA’s or steam rooms to lose weight. This is for the Floyd lovers whom actually believe Floyd didn’t drain with those non-official fight night weights of his. This isn’t a case like PAC or Marquez weighing at 142 for a Welterweight bout or PAC’s weight against Algieri at “Welterweight.” No this is that Floyd couldn’t add 2lbs more than his added attempts to make 147. 144 Floyd was scared with his performance from his drain.

                    Look at Lara. How thin he looks in the ring and not so different on the scale, though he is thinner. He is still gaining 11lbs from the 154 scale. So Floyd looking ripped to soft on fight night at Welterweight bouts isn’t the same like Lara? Floyd was probably 157 in his post career at 147. Means 10lbs cut to 3lbs more is 13lbs drain for Marquez. Floyd couldn’t do it.

                    And we wonder why Floyd was “severely dehydrated” for his 147 fight against PAC... tsk tsk

                    I box too, and you and I do not drain anything near to pro fighter regiments. Pros have a schedule to work with PROFESSIONALLY. We don’t do this because it doesn’t apply to US.
                    Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 01-01-2021, 04:31 PM.

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                    • kushking
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                      #90
                      Floyd snr"Canelo will be starved & i expect him to get hurt because of it"

                      Floyd snr"Canelo will be starved & i expect him to get hurt because of it"

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