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  • Roadblock
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    #91
    Originally posted by To Be Frank Doe
    Making weight is calibration from camp to fight week stability to insure you make the scale. Fighters are fluctuating on fight week carefully. These is usually reserved for guys whom gain 10lbs+. The less rehydration in weight means you’re not hurting your body, and it also means you have the flexibility to lose weigh too just like any other combat sportsmen to HIT SAUNA’s or steam rooms to lose weight. This is for the Floyd lovers whom actually believe Floyd didn’t drain with those non-official fight night weights of his. This isn’t a case like PAC or Marquez weighing at 142 for a Welterweight bout or PAC’s weight against Algieri at “Welterweight.” No this is that Floyd couldn’t add 2lbs more than his added attempts to make 147. 144 Floyd was scared with his performance from his drain.

    Look at Lara. How thin he looks in the ring and not so different on the scale, though he is thinner. He is still gaining 11lbs from the 154 scale. So Floyd looking ripped to soft on fight night at Welterweight bouts isn’t the same like Lara? Floyd was probably 157 in his post career at 147. Means 10lbs cut to 3lbs more is 13lbs drain for Marquez. Floyd couldn’t do it.

    And we wonder why Floyd was “severely dehydrated” for his 147 fight against PAC... tsk tsk
    Nobody said Floyd couldnt do it, he chose not to boil at the last hour.

    He wasnt severely dehydrated with Manny he was slightly dehydrated and it would have fcked with his mineral balance namely potassium which effect how muscles fire. 750 ml is about what Ive given to a Greyhound that weighed 68lbs , for a 150 pound man its a very small doses, it was mainly about electrolyte's and being cautious not to fck up.

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #92
      Originally posted by Roadblock
      Nobody said Floyd couldnt do it, he chose not to boil at the last hour.

      He wasnt severely dehydrated with Manny he was slightly dehydrated and it would have fcked with his mineral balance namely potassium which effect how muscles fire. 750 ml is about what Ive given to a Greyhound that weighed 68lbs , for a 150 pound man its a very small doses, it was mainly about electrolyte's and being cautious not to fck up.
      I hit the steam room rather easily. Cutting 2lbs of water is nothing. If your gym has a steam room this is common sense you’ve done it... now if I was cutting weight all week to maintain a weight then this “boil” proves that even 2lbs affects performance... hence 152 . It’s not complicated nor a debate, just common sense. It makes more sense if you hit the gym

      Btw, Floyd said he got “diarrhea” due to severe dehydration. That was reported, not opinion or theory

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        #93
        Originally posted by To Be Frank Doe
        I hit the steam room rather easily. Cutting 2lbs of water is nothing. If your gym has a steam room this is common sense you’ve done it... now if I was cutting weight all week to maintain a weight then this “boil” proves that even 2lbs affects performance... hence 152 . It’s not complicated nor a debate, just common sense. It makes more sense if you hit the gym
        You keep jumping around without understanding you are not a highly tuned athlete, Ive dropped 2 pounds from chewing gum and spitting it dont mean sht when you are super trained and dropping faster or slower than you thought you would .

        750ml is such a small does of IV fluids , in the old days it was very common to use IV fluids when coming to weight, 750 ml is proof its not servere words dont beat the facts of volume used.

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          #94
          Originally posted by To Be Frank Doe
          “Is” is present tense. Lol. The conversation about GGg diehards referring to Canelo of past claiming that “Canelo fans” said Canelo was a small Middleweight.

          This isn’t even rocket science. The Canelo we see now is bigger than before, about 5-7lbs more calibrated muscle to have gone to 175 and 168. Again Canelo looks soft in the ring compared to the scales. Both GGg and Canelo were ripped as hell at 160.

          GGG has been afraid to bulk up to a higher division because he would have to stay there. We see plenty of fighters walking around significantly bigger than their fighting weight. Hurd, Jermall Charlo or even Spence would walk around significantly bigger than what Canelo or GGG present themselves. To keep it consistent, look at the pictures below. We see a drained GGG compared to his walk around weight when he wasn’t fighting 3 times a year. The older you are the harder it is.

          GGG looks so malnourished compared to his walk around weight. It proves that GGG can easily compete at 168. Look at the damn pictures. Lol. Yet he chooses to drain and be bony at 160. He only looks proper on fight night because he rehydrates 15lbs in the ring. Imagine if GGg actually cared to be a 2 division Champ or 3. If GGg bulked up he would be a beast.



          That's not true though. At the weigh in, GGG was carrying a decent amount of flab around the waist. Canelo had far more lines/striations, any extra lb would just mean further water depletion. GGG probably has about 10-15lbs to lose before he's that level of ripped. Guessing around 150.

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            #95
            Originally posted by SplitSecond
            When did he say that and when was the fight made? 1 year, 2 years before the Floyd fight? And did Canelo not say no, but Mayweather refused him the fight completely unless he did so? Just questions.

            This was Floyd, a champ at 154, clearly set on draining another champ at 154. Mayweather actually asked Canelo to come to 147, believe it or not. The balls on the guy.
            If you watch one of the All Access videos for the build up for the fight one of Floyd handlers said that they saw in Boxingsscene Canelo said that he would take the fight at 152. They approached him, he accepted and they said that it was a dumb move by the Canelo's team part. In a lager episode you have Canelo and his team watching that commentary. So no, it wasn't 1 or 2 years before.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Roadblock
              You keep jumping around without understanding you are not a highly tuned athlete, Ive dropped 2 pounds from chewing gum and spitting it dont mean sht when you are super trained and dropping faster or slower than you thought you would .

              750ml is such a small does of IV fluids , in the old days it was very common to use IV fluids when coming to weight.
              IV Fluids is not just water. It’s a ****tail of serum and vitamins that amps the body for “minerals” lost. It’s like jump starting a car even if it has gas...”750ml” of the ****tail in the bag, not water weight. Unless you’re unconscious, medical history doesn’t influence intravenous if it’s just about water. A hospital wouldn’t even waste time admitting a patient if it was about rehydration for just water. The amount of bags in the medical field relate to what’s added in it, not shoes sizes. different size bags serve their purposes for the thousands of combination drugs administered

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                #97
                Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
                That's not true though. At the weigh in, GGG was carrying a decent amount of flab around the waist. Canelo had far more lines/striations, any extra lb would just mean further water depletion. GGG probably has about 10-15lbs to lose before he's that level of ripped. Guessing around 150.
                The older you are the more skin folds you’ll have. Look at all the fighters late 30’s, 40’s sitting on the stool. They have the most excess skin folding over upwards the trunks. Not a good comparison

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
                  If you watch one of the All Access videos for the build up for the fight one of Floyd handlers said that they saw in Boxingsscene Canelo said that he would take the fight at 152. They approached him, he accepted and they said that it was a dumb move by the Canelo's team part. In a lager episode you have Canelo and his team watching that commentary. So no, it wasn't 1 or 2 years before.
                  You’re talking about the 150lb catchweight and it did come a year or two before they entered negotiations.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by To Be Frank Doe
                    The older you are the more skin folds you’ll have. Look at all the fighters late 30’s, 40’s sitting on the stool. They have the most excess skin folding over upwards the trunks. Not a good comparison
                    It's not skinfolds, it's being able to identify levels in subcutaneous fat in athletic people who most of the general public would consider ripped. Not that it's necessarily better to be super ripped, sometimes it actually hurts athletic performance BUT it is a gauge of body composition. And I'm telling you, I've literally done hundreds of these tests and read hundreds of DEXA scan. I'm telling you GGG is about 11-12 percent body fat at the weight in. Canelo is 7-8. That's about a 7lb difference, add a few more for the extra water he's holding and that's where I'm getting this from.

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                      #100
                      That's not to say that you're wrong and GGG wouldn't do better with more weight, again, super low body fat isn't ideal for everyone. It's really just for aesthetics. It's a myth that you have to be shredded for ideal athletic performance.

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