Very true but as CWs are not all the same you got to dig deeper to see who was effected in a negative way by their CW the most, neither Cotto or Canelo were ruined like Oscar was, but they were not the same effect on both guys,, watch the fights its easy to see , resistance, endurance, snap.
Why do Floyd die hards pretend Floyd didn't brag about weightdraining young gingers?
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Right Hand Jaggoff doesn’t know the sport. He doesn’t realize rehydration clauses refer to the next day morning weigh in or be fined. These Canelo haters purposefully like ignore that it doesn’t mean the challenger has a 10lb limit into the ring...lol.
Jacobs made so much money with the Canelo fight that he could miss (and did, intentionally) the morning weigh in and pay the fine. The benefits in beating Canelo outweigh any morning weigh in fine. That goes for Kovalev, Fielding, Chavez Jr.
So this “imagine Canelo doing” is comical. Canelo looks soft and filled at 168-175 weigh ins. I didn’t see any difference in the Kovalev fight. So Canelo wouldn’t have to worry about a 10lb morning (rehydration clause) limit at all at 168-175.
If you have trouble making 10lb in the morning with a clause, the same clause that Loma did with Rigo or the same “clause” that any IBF belt holder must do, then it simply means you’re challenging yourself in a class that ideally you shouldn’t be at. The burden is on you, and nobody is putting a gun to your head to accept a fight that you’re willing to entertain fans.
Remember that a boxer is performing for fans too. If you you can’t make 10lb morning rules for a significant fight then why the fool even do it. The sport is already criticized that all boxers performed at a higher class because everyone drains. Smith was 20lb heavier than Canelo on fight night. That’s crazy to even see considering that difference is after both have rehydrated.
I don’t have a problem with Canelo losing at 152.
Floyd was very dishonest with the initial Marquez agreement at 144. It’s simply impossible for a seasoned Welterweight to not make 144lb. That makes no fooking sense other than Floyd gains just like Lara did in the Canelo fight, rehydrating 11lbs... it means if Floyd gains 8lbs on average at 147, then him trying to make a 144 catch would be another 3lbs of water sacrifice and it’s perhaps Floyd wasn’t about that. That also explains why Floyd was insecure or something happened in the PAC fight where he was “severely dehydrated” and needing a IV... it doesn’t mean Floyd took something in the IV at all, it simply means that he drains at 147. Most guys would say 8lb isn’t draining, but to Floyd it could’ve been. Floyd was soft in the ring vs his ripped physique at the scales the day before.
Last but not least, Floyd ducked Cotto and Canelo for their Middleweight titles. Floyd fans don’t know how to put that together. For example, could Floyd beat Manny Pacquiao at 150lbs? Of course! So why didn’t Floyd attempt his six class and Lineal against two fighters he bragged were “easy work.” Sometimes Floyd is respectable about Cotto and Canelo about how difficult they were, but then he changes tune in different interviews to brag how easy they were.Comment
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Wrote a whole story but doesn't know how to read. Only cherry picks portions of my argument you want to respond to rather than the whole thing!Right Hand Jaggoff doesn’t know the sport. He doesn’t realize rehydration clauses refer to the next day morning weigh in or be fined. These Canelo haters purposefully like ignore that it doesn’t mean the challenger has a 10lb limit into the ring...lol.
Jacobs made so much money with the Canelo fight that he could miss (and did, intentionally) the morning weigh in and pay the fine. The benefits in beating Canelo outweigh any morning weigh in fine. That goes for Kovalev, Fielding, Chavez Jr.
So this “imagine Canelo doing” is comical. Canelo looks soft and filled at 168-175 weigh ins. I didn’t see any difference in the Kovalev fight. So Canelo wouldn’t have to worry about a 10lb morning (rehydration clause) limit at all at 168-175.
If you have trouble making 10lb in the morning with a clause, the same clause that Loma did with Rigo or the same “clause” that any IBF belt holder must do, then it simply means you’re challenging yourself in a class that ideally you shouldn’t be at. The burden is on you, and nobody is putting a gun to your head to accept a fight that you’re willing to entertain fans.
Remember that a boxer is performing for fans too. If you you can’t make 10lb morning rules for a significant fight then why the fool even do it. The sport is already criticized that all boxers performed at a higher class because everyone drains. Smith was 20lb heavier than Canelo on fight night. That’s crazy to even see considering that difference is after both have rehydrated.
I don’t have a problem with Canelo losing at 152.
Floyd was very dishonest with the initial Marquez agreement at 144. It’s simply impossible for a seasoned Welterweight to not make 144lb. That makes no fooking sense other than Floyd gains just like Lara did in the Canelo fight, rehydrating 11lbs... it means if Floyd gains 8lbs on average at 147, then him trying to make a 144 catch would be another 3lbs of water sacrifice and it’s perhaps Floyd wasn’t about that. That also explains why Floyd was insecure or something happened in the PAC fight where he was “severely dehydrated” and needing a IV... it doesn’t mean Floyd took something in the IV at all, it simply means that he drains at 147. Most guys would say 8lb isn’t draining, but to Floyd it could’ve been. Floyd was soft in the ring vs his ripped physique at the scales the day before.
Last but not least, Floyd ducked Cotto and Canelo for their Middleweight titles. Floyd fans don’t know how to put that together. For example, could Floyd beat Manny Pacquiao at 150lbs? Of course! So why didn’t Floyd attempt his six class and Lineal against two fighters he bragged were “easy work.” Sometimes Floyd is respectable about Cotto and Canelo about how difficult they were, but then he changes tune in different interviews to brag how easy they were.
Lmfao.
I dont know what I'm talking about but Smith ....
Yeah. Callum smith weighed 195lbs+ in the right right?
More realistically we weighed 200+ lbs when fighting Canelo right?
So those 10lb rehydration clauses hurt Smith didn't they?
Let's do math for you. They didn't teach you that in the jungle did they?
168+10 =178
Smith would still need to rehydrate up to 20lbs of water after the weigh in to get to "20lbs heavier than Canelo".
No source. No evidence. Nothing but a g@y fanboy ******* off his idol.Comment
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I don't understand why Pac fans continue to nitpick at Floyd resume like most of Pac's best wins were not Mayweather leftovers and most of the opponents who fought both were whooped better by Mayweather.
Dudes longest win streak is like 15. Floyd got 50. Y'all ain't even as ****ing close as you like to believe. Him drained Canelo? Canelo were green doe? Just ****ing pissy your guy doesn't stack up, never did, never will.
Finally, when are these types of threads going to be considered historical?Comment
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Lmfao and Canelo was 165 in the ring against Floyd that night. If he was so ****ing drained I’d love to know what his usual weight in the ring was at junior middleweight.Comment
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Lol.Wrote a whole story but doesn't know how to read. Only cherry picks portions of my argument you want to respond to rather than the whole thing!
Lmfao.
I dont know what I'm talking about but Smith ....
Yeah. Callum smith weighed 195lbs+ in the right right?
More realistically we weighed 200+ lbs when fighting Canelo right?
So those 10lb rehydration clauses hurt Smith didn't they?
Let's do math for you. They didn't teach you that in the jungle did they?
168+10 =178
Smith would still need to rehydrate up to 20lbs of water after the weigh in to get to "20lbs heavier than Canelo".
No source. No evidence. Nothing but a g@y fanboy ******* off his idol.
This is the second time I have to mention 10lb MORNING clause! Lol. The “rehydration clause” refers to the morning fines you dummy!!! It means they can’t exceed 10lbs from 168 in the am. They can be whatever in the ring, fight night. This rule has been exercised by the IBF. Why would do they that? Because it’s acknowledged that draining is practiced through all combat sports.
Canelo probably gained 8lbs from 168. For Kovalev he gained about 3-4lbs. So at LHW Canelo looks about 178 on fight night and for his last 168 (looking a tad slimmer) he was probably 175-176 in the ring.
Like I said, 20lbs difference from Canelo you dummy! Smith was like 195lbs at least in the ring. Chavez Sr. said Zurdo Ramirez was like 196lbs when he fought at 168.
So what is meant is that in the morning, without touching fines, the rehydration clause is that both Smith and Canelo can’t be more than 178lbs on the scale. Smith is then allowed to replenish as fast as he can to fight night. It’s a grueling process but that’s the game. When you’re deprived water weight it’s very easy to refill on the scale with food and water as it’s done throughout the day to fight night.
Lesson learned you dummy?!Comment
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just because they say bad things to floyd doesn't mean they are pac fans.. stop mentioning pac in every floyd's thread. you like to link their name as always right?I don't understand why Pac fans continue to nitpick at Floyd resume like most of Pac's best wins were not Mayweather leftovers and most of the opponents who fought both were whooped better by Mayweather.
Dudes longest win streak is like 15. Floyd got 50. Y'all ain't even as ****ing close as you like to believe. Him drained Canelo? Canelo were green doe? Just ****ing pissy your guy doesn't stack up, never did, never will.
Finally, when are these types of threads going to be considered historical?
it literally shows that floyd can't live without pac's name.Comment
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gtfo, Pac's whole entire career is based on Floyd juxtaposition and catching Floyd haters as his 'fans'
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lol in every pac's thread there's always like you who keeps mentioning floyd.. floyd can't really live his life without pac because of you gays.
pacquiao is the goat even without cherry picker / ducker floyd.Comment
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