Why do Floyd die hards pretend Floyd didn't brag about weightdraining young gingers?

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  • kushking
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    #21
    Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
    Bro, Chavez Jr couldn't even make 168 lol, but Canelo had him fight at 164
    Like I said Jr the bum would've cried about being drained at 175,& Canelo went up in weight vs the bum,so that doesn't apply

    Even still if you want I'll give you that,Canelo Didn't beat the bum at his best

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      #22
      Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw
      They are both evil but its so funny watching both sides pretend they're so righteous while pretending like the other is so bad.

      Imagine if Canelo had to accept a 10lb rehydration limit at 154-155lbs?

      Oh its not the same! IT IS.
      What difference does having to only gain 10 lbs overnight make?(hardly none as evidenced by Jacobs vs deryev),after the 2nd weigh in they can gain as much as they want,but having to get that extra lb lower in muscle to begin with makes all the difference because it weakens you even after you gain it back

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        #23
        Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
        Now he's saying he's too big - complaining that cutting to 160 is too hard. If cutting to 160 is so hard now, how come just 2 years ago you were saying you were too small for 160?
        To be fair once they grow into weight through training its very hard to go back without it hurting you badly.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Roadblock
          To be fair once they grow into weight through training its very hard to go back without it hurting you badly.
          I'm not saying Floyd doesn't deserve massive credit anyways, I'm saying his win should have an asterisk like pacs win over fishnets

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            #25
            Originally posted by kushking
            Like I said Jr the bum would've cried about being drained at 175,& Canelo went up in weight vs the bum,so that doesn't apply

            Even still if you want I'll give you that,Canelo Didn't beat the bum at his best
            I agree with all that, he would have beat the **** out of him regardless of the weight. It was just that he made him come down to 164 that I didn't like.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Roadblock
              To be fair once they grow into weight through training its very hard to go back without it hurting you badly.
              Yes but doing it in such a short period of time seems questionable to me. Going from a junior middleweight to a super middleweight in 2 years is a lot, especially if kept insisting you were too small for mw

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                #27
                Originally posted by kushking
                Chavez jr Canelo didn't have to MOVE UP in weight,he could've fought at any weight he wanted,& Jr would've been crying about anything below 175 ffs,

                Having literally giants have to be within 10 lbs the next morning is not the same thing as what Floyd did,Canelo as the cashcow was the one whom moved up & gave up height & reach to all those guys,& they had already been done next day weigh ins like Jacobs did vs Deryev,but vs Canelo he had the advantage because he blew it off anyways despite having done next day weigh in for several fights. Kovalev fight Canelo moved up to kovs weight & the fight had already been scheduled for the late night,& kov was able to easily come in at hw which would've been worse had he not had a morning weigh in.

                None of those equate to Floyd literally forcing Canelo at 152 despite already being champ at full 154,& canelo Didn't have height or reach advantage either
                Laugh my ass off how you defend Canelo and his antics but critize Floyd.

                Both you set of fans are garbage as.s ****. You want to pretend like you are so righteous but Canelo is no better than Floyd. In fact I think hes worse.

                Imagine if Canelo had to accept a 10lb rehydration limit when he was fighting at 155. Dude would only be able to come in at 165 but routinely came in 170+.

                And you think Jacobs just blew it because he wanted to? Dude physically COULD NOT make the weight and subsequently moved to 168 right after.

                If Canelo was so good why need those?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by kushking
                  I'm not saying Floyd doesn't deserve massive credit anyways, I'm saying his win should have an asterisk like pacs win over fishnets
                  Now many of Canelos fights deserve asterisks between shady score cards and fights that involved rehydration clauses and short camps?

                  Isn't this game fun!?

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                    #29
                    Also the point is one you already said. He was a middleweight all along, he just pretended he wasn't. We all know why though

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by kushking
                      I'm not saying Floyd doesn't deserve massive credit anyways, I'm saying his win should have an asterisk like pacs win over fishnets
                      It always will have because of the CW no getting around that, thing is not all CWs are equal, some guys the CW ruins them others it doesnt effect them that much, the actual fights tell the story if a guy was really hurt by a CW or not.

                      The CWs that looked to hurt guys they were all stopped, had low resistance, pushed punches and had no snap, they look weak in the fights.

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