Why do Floyd die hards pretend Floyd didn't brag about weightdraining young gingers?

[kushking]

I have a question for bsn,what constitutes"being weightdrained"

I have a question for bsn,what constitutes"being weightdrained"

Because I thought weightdrained meant what Pac did to Delacoca & to others? Wasn't that what it means Floyd die hards? Because I remember when it used to mean that.

[TJ highway]

Canelo weight at 155
Rehydration clauses
Short camps
Positive PED tests

Shut the hell up

Tired of you internet tuff guys talking doo doo on the key boards.

Froid is a panocha punk arese Lil Bi-tch.

[aboutfkntime]

Floyd for years claimed Pacs CW wins don't count (I agree that pacs win over DLH has an asterisk too btw)

And I'm not saying a fully hydrated Canelo wouldnt have a natural advantage either,but a 152 Canelo was at a huge disadvantage & fought like a zombie (not because of Floyds skill either) (Floyd wouldn't have had such an easy time otherwise thats a fact because its common sense)


Vs Canelo he forced Canelo down to 152 where he made clear he couldn't make without severely weakening himself,(what a coincidence he hadn't fought at that weight in years before he outgrew it),& then Floyd made several videos bragging about weightdraining Canelo so he wouldn't train & even said he had spies in his camp who informed him he was going to bed without eating.

He then taunted Canelo with steak & lobster & bragged about how he is the best because he chooses the "straight up & down come forward" fighters who have no chance"(his own words) "yeah I pick opponents I know I can beat so what thats why I'm Undefeated & making millions,if I faced who everyone wanted I likely wouldn't be Undefeated & would lose my status as moneymaker,thats why I'm the best because I pick my opponents whom I know I'll beat,not whom haters want me to lose to"(paraphrase I'll find the vid later)

He used to say he wanted his opponents at their beat unlike pac,he said"I faced DLH,Cotto,etc. at their weight unlike cw Pacquiao"(he wasn't lying.)

But then he despite fighting at 154 already & having belts at 154 he never defended,he forced Canelo to fight in a drained state & thats a fact.

So even though Mayweather would've been at a disadvantage by fighting Canelo at 154 thats the REAL canelo,& beating 152 Canelo shouldn't be rewarded the same credit.

nah, thats bullshlt... he weighed 153 in his last fight

also, Canelo offered that catchweight

the main point is... it made no difference whatsoever to the outcome

the main reason why people are getting more and more salty about that catchweight over time is... Canelo, by virtue of his success, is making Mayweather greater in hindsight

hindsight is what historians use to evaluate ATG comparisons

the greater Canelo becomes, the more meaningful that win by Mayweather

[vansman954]

Bro it's 2 pounds. You can fight or not fight the option is yours

[richardt]

I'm not saying Floyd doesn't deserve massive credit anyways, I'm saying his win should have an asterisk like pacs win over fishnets

The thing that was surprising was that both Pac and Oscar agreed right off the bat on 147 without any back and forth. But Oscar publicly announced in an article that he wanted more speed against Pac and came down to 145 which was a big mistake. Sage advice to all older fighters - don't go down in weight. Chris Byrd, Ray Leonard, Roy Jones, Oscar, Chad Dawson, and others found out the hard way that it is a big mistake. But some day, some great fighter will make that same mistake and pay the price.

[kushking]

The thing that was surprising was that both Pac and Oscar agreed right off the bat on 147 without any back and forth. But Oscar publicly announced in an article that he wanted more speed against Pac and came down to 145 which was a big mistake. Sage advice to all older fighters - don't go down in weight. Chris Byrd, Ray Leonard, Roy Jones, Oscar, Chad Dawson, and others found out the hard way that it is a big mistake. But some day, some great fighter will make that same mistake and pay the price.

I agree its the fighters own fault for going down in weight,this is not about it being Floyds fault,this is about how impressive wins are normally rated. If a fighter makes the other fighter have a huge disadvantage like May forced Canelo into then he has to account for it in that the win isn't as illustrious as it could've been had Canelo been allowed to fight at 154. (Just as Canelo will always have to account for the fights where he had next day weigh ins,those fights will always get a slight knock but as long as those fighters were allowed to fight at their Normal weightclass they warent by definition weightdrained.

He will have to account for having beaten Kahn at 155,& the other 155 fights were as much to benefit the other fighters as him like Kirkland whom wouldn't have made 154,Cotto would've had to have gone up to 160 if not for the 155 cw he actually created as lineal mw)

[kushking]

nah, thats bullshlt... he weighed 153 in his last fight

also, Canelo offered that catchweight

the main point is... it made no difference whatsoever to the outcome

the main reason why people are getting more and more salty about that catchweight over time is... Canelo, by virtue of his success, is making Mayweather greater in hindsight

hindsight is what historians use to evaluate ATG comparisons

the greater Canelo becomes, the more meaningful that win by Mayweather

When a fighter already has to make 154 like Canelo did before Floyd,of course he came in 153(because that 1 pound can fluctuate since hes already draining to make 154 fighters often come in slightly below, literally 1 big cup of liquid can make that pound of difference,& before the weigh in Canelo could've lost that pound in his sleep from sweat(especially after going to sleep hungry).

But Canelo adamantly fought against having to make 152 because he said his body was incapable & he was already struggling with 154,Floyd after having already agreed to the fight at the last minute pulled his weightdraining on purpose like he pulled last min shenanigans to Marquez where NSAC literally had to break every rule imaginable by changing the weight of the fight after the deadlines had passed & paperwork was already filed)

NoBody is saying Canelo wouldnt have lost,nor detracting Floyds impressive win, I'm saying Floyd himself shows more respect for Canelo than anyone else by forcing him to 152 & NoBody else.

Floyd showed before fighting Canelo that he was concerned about losing at 154 otherwise he wouldn't have demanded those 2 lbs

[PRINCEKOOL]

Mayweather was the same exact height as Canelo ffs,his real weightclass could've easily been 154 if he wanted it to be(he had no problem fighting Cotton at 154)

Height is only 1 measurement of size, Mayweather does not have the same size frame as Canelo Alvarez.

Joe Calzaghe was 5"11, was he the same size as Mike Tyson? No, Tyson still had a bigger frame overall etc

[Roadblock]

Height is only 1 measurement of size, Mayweather does not have the same size frame as Canelo Alvarez.

Joe Calzaghe was 5"11, was he the same size as Mike Tyson? No, Tyson still had a bigger frame overall etc

Exactly it was a ****** comment he made, height is a good thing to have but its no match for weight, same weight is an even fight if its both their best weight, Pit dogs are matched to the pound for that very reason.

If boxers were matched only at their best weight history would be different. happens occasionally but most of the time somebody is giving away a lot, or somebody really struggled to make weight etc etc and it effects the outcome to some degree thats why fight night weight is so important its the fight weight, the weighing weight is about how easy or hard they made it, lots of Shenanigans with weight in boxing, the casuals have no idea.

[Clegg]

It's a quality win, but like Pac vs Cotto it has an asterisk next to it because of the catchweight