Having a belt doesn’t mean you deserve a big fight.

[The Big Dunn]

So Trevor Bryan should fight AJ next...

Come in dude. Quote the whole post and respond to every point made.

You are selectively outraged and it’s extremely biased.

Loma got a title shot in his 2nd pro fight and you didn’t complain. Yet you want Haney to “earn” a title shot with Loma even though he won the mando.

Why all of the sudden are you outraged and weren’t outraged when a boxer you like did the exact same thing you ranted about?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Come in dude. Quote the whole post and respond to every point made.

You are selectively outraged and it’s extremely biased.

Loma got a title shot in his 2nd pro fight and you didn’t complain. Yet you want Haney to “earn” a title shot with Loma even though he won the mando.

Why all of the sudden are you outraged and weren’t outraged when a boxer you like did the exact same thing you ranted about?

Loma was one of the greatest amateur’s of all time and beat a guy in Ramirez in his first fight who was ranked, then Salido gave him a voluntary.

Haney got put in a mandatory position on the back of beating nobody. He didn’t deserve a shot whatsoever, the ABC rankings are corrupt. We all know all these ABC systems are nonsense.

Look at how many awful mandatories there are...

[Apollo7]

I'm sick of fights not happening because of rival promoters and tv networks. I'm sick of hearing fighters make excuses. Sick of hearing them argue over A-side and B-side. Sick of them telling other fighters they need to "earn" a fight with them, telling them they need to fight this guy or that guy first instead of just wanting to beat them up and take their belt(s).

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I feel like a lot of you have missed the point, my issue is not the fact these guys have worked the system in their favour- why wouldn’t they.

My issue is that these fighters act entitled just because they have an ABC piece of leather without actually beating anyone.

[The Big Dunn]

Loma was one of the greatest amateur’s of all time and beat a guy in Ramirez in his first fight who was ranked, then Salido gave him a voluntary.

Haney got put in a mandatory position on the back of beating nobody. He didn’t deserve a shot whatsoever, the ABC rankings are corrupt. We all know all these ABC systems are nonsense.

Look at how many awful mandatories there are...

Haney and Loma got over because of who their promoters were. They both won the eliminator against ranked opponents.

If your point is some guys get made mandos that shouldn’t be- almost all of us regular, credible posters agree with you.

If your point is promoter hook ups are bad for the sport and they reward undeserving fighters- we agree.

However, you seem mad at Haney and not Loma and that doesn’t seem fair.

Loma avoided that fight and there is no justification for that.

[Mammoth]

Come in dude. Quote the whole post and respond to every point made.

You are selectively outraged and it’s extremely biased.

Loma got a title shot in his 2nd pro fight and you didn’t complain. Yet you want Haney to “earn” a title shot with Loma even though he won the mando.

Why all of the sudden are you outraged and weren’t outraged when a boxer you like did the exact same thing you ranted about?

Loma even got a title shot coming off a loss in his third fight

[kiaba360]

Eubank has expressed interest in fighting Andrade. So there’s that.

Hearn called Charlo/Andrade a ***** fight, so I doubt there's much interest for Eubank. Andrade should go for GGG or Charlo, with his emergency option being Liam Williams.

As for Haney: Lopez, Loma, Garcia/Campbell winner, Fortuna, Nakatani, Linares.

[whollisboxing]

I’m getting sick of seeing fighters demanding big fights when they haven’t beaten anyone.

Just cause you won a vacant title against Walter Katundowka or got a WBC title via email, that doesn’t automatically qualify you for a massive fight.

I’ve seen guys like Haney and Andrade along with their fans claiming they’re avoided. You can’t be avoided if you don’t fight anyone!!!!

Jermall Charlo for example got a gimme WBC belt but he went and defended against Derevyanchenko and now we’d love to see him face Canelo or GGG.

Teofimo Lopez went and iced Richard Commey which made us interested in seeing him fight Lomachenko.

I’m getting sick of seeing guys fight at C/D level then wanting to jump to elite level without proving themselves.

Had to get that off my chest... rant over.

I understand your frustration, and honestly I think that the "B-level" guys are an important part of the equation too.

For example, Richard Commey could have said "well Teofimo Lopez hasn't fought anyone" because plenty of fighters use that excuse to avoid threats

Fortunately, Commey took the fight and Teo took advantage of the opportunity to prove himself at a higher level

Andrade has mentioned taking a pay cut to face Billy Joe Saunders and I think that's a good idea since he needs a top opponent. If he can't get Saunders (who is in the running for Canelo) then I think Andrade should take his mandatory fight against Liam Williams.

Williams is another one of those "B-level" fighters and if Andrade destroys him then he has more grounds to say he's avoided if the top guys still don't look his way.

The Ryan Garcia-Luke Campbell winner is one of Haney's mandatories so that fight can happen if Garcia or Campbell wants it. If they too decide to use the "he hasn't fought anyone" excuse then Haney should fight his own "B-level" mandatory in Javier Fortuna.

[KingOfGlory]

I feel like a lot of you have missed the point, my issue is not the fact these guys have worked the system in their favour- why wouldn’t they.

My issue is that these fighters act entitled just because they have an ABC piece of leather without actually beating anyone.

The issue with this argument is that #1 still needs to fight too.

It's pretty lame hearing #1 say guys in the top 10 need to "earn" a fight with him while he fights guys outside the top 10 in the meantime.

[Doubledagger]

Multiple wrongs don’t make a right...

And out of those guys only Khan, Lemieux and Chavez Jr got big paydays. All 3 have better resumes than those two.

Lemieux has a better resume? Chavez?

Phuck outta here.