Having a belt doesn’t mean you deserve a big fight.

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  • KingHippo
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    #11
    Originally posted by SplitSecond
    Eubank has expressed interest in fighting Andrade. So there’s that.
    Maybe he's interested. Or maybe he's just throwing names out there. If he's serious, then you're right, that's a fight Andrade should take.

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    • Doubledagger
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      #12
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
      I’m getting sick of seeing fighters demanding big fights when they haven’t beaten anyone.

      Just cause you won a vacant title against Walter Katundowka or got a WBC title via email, that doesn’t automatically qualify you for a massive fight.

      I’ve seen guys like Haney and Andrade along with their fans claiming they’re avoided. You can’t be avoided if you don’t fight anyone!!!!

      Jermall Charlo for example got a gimme WBC belt but he went and defended against Derevyanchenko and now we’d love to see him face Canelo or GGG.

      Teofimo Lopez went and iced Richard Commey which made us interested in seeing him fight Lomachenko.

      I’m getting sick of seeing guys fight at C/D level then wanting to jump to elite level without proving themselves.

      Had to get that off my chest... rant over.
      Fielding? Amir Khan? Sremeter? Vanes? Chavez jr? Wade? Lemuiex?

      Were any of these guys more deserving than Haney and Andrade?

      How so?

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      • Marchegiano
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        #13
        I disagree, belts should have meaning, and unifications should be top priority.

        Haney should fight Teo, Teo should fight Haney. Literally no one else matters as much because undisputed though. Once all roads lead to one man big fights are him.

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        • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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          #14
          Originally posted by SplitSecond
          Nah. Andrade could be chasing Derevyanchenko, Eubanks, etc etc. Plenty of fights to gain attention and have people talk him into big fights. Top fighter’s aren’t just gonna give a guy a pity fight, pick some skilled nobody who brings nothing to the table. You need to drum up interest.

          Andrade should get Golovkin next though. Canelo is a bit much for how little he has accomplished.
          100 percent mate. He hasn’t beaten anyone in the top 10.

          Go fight Derv, Eubank, Murata, Munguia etc

          You can’t be fighting Luke Keeler and claim you’re the one being avoided.

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          • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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            #15
            Originally posted by Doubledagger
            Fielding? Amir Khan? Sremeter? Vanes? Chavez jr? Wade? Lemuiex?

            Were any of these guys more deserving than Haney and Andrade?

            How so?
            Multiple wrongs don’t make a right...

            And out of those guys only Khan, Lemieux and Chavez Jr got big paydays. All 3 have better resumes than those two.

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            • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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              #16
              Originally posted by Marchegiano
              I disagree, belts should have meaning, and unifications should be top priority.

              Haney should fight Teo, Teo should fight Haney. Literally no one else matters as much because undisputed though. Once all roads lead to one man big fights are him.
              They should but there’s no value in them anymore.

              Can we really say Haney and Andrade are champions when we contextualise how they attained their titles?

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                #17
                Originally posted by Mammoth
                You didn't think Charlo deserved a big fight before the Derevyanchenko fight?
                Who had he beat at 160? He got his belt beating Centeno Jr.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by KingHippo
                  There's something fundamentally wrong with this statement.
                  .......How so?

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                  • KingHippo
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                    .......How so?
                    Well, it's hard to fight anybody if no one wants to fight you.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by KingHippo
                      Well, it's hard to fight anybody if no one wants to fight you.
                      Here’s a poignant example.

                      Frankie Randall who died recently was generally an avoided fighter. Didn’t get a world title shot until after his 50th fight.

                      He still fought Edwin Rosario twice, Pendleton twice, Aguilar. These guys are champions and they still aren’t fighting anyone.

                      Look at the guys Hagler fought just to get a shot. Who delusional morons at DAZN disgracefully compare to Andrade.

                      Andrade and Haney could definitely fight better competition.

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